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Old 10-01-2007, 07:59
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Re: Bubble play

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I agree with Jez here - the money is to be made in the higher placings. If you play just to sneak into the money you're not going to do well IMO - you have to play aggressively (not the same as recklessly).
Of course I am aware of this. You are on THE BUBBLE though, theres not 30 left with 20 paid or something like this where you can play more normally, it does make a difference. Pass the 77 and by the time the BB next comes round to you id imagine youll be in the money and you can return to playing more optimally. Not that I think calling here with 77 is optimal anyway in a tournament a lot of the time but you catch my drift.

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You could call with AA here and lose. But it is still right to call. Of course you are putting your tournament life in jeopardy, but you're doing it based on the risk/reward balance
This has nothing to do with the point I was making. You pass small edges (say 51-60% favourite type scenarios) in tournies sometimes, its correct strategy to do so to keep yourself in the tournament and give yourself chance to get lucky and pick up some real nice hands.

Its like a scenario with an open ended straight and flush draw, you are a favourite here 54% or whatever it is against hands like top pair and overpairs. But if you are calling the all in do you necessarily do it in a tournament? No you shouldnt a lot of the time. In a cash game do you? Absolutely. Its a similar % scenario with the 77 here.

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As I explained in a later post, you're quite likely to have 20% or more edge here in your bet against AK
What dyou mean by this? How would 77 have a 20% edge against AK, its like a coinflip scenario. In terms of tournament survival you will go out about 50% of the time this is the key point (lets face it theres only 1bb in there as dead money its hardly much to be getting sweet about and basing your key decisions on).

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Can I ask what hands you would call the all-in with there? AA, KK, QQ?
Yep id make the call with those for sure. Id definitely consider calling with AK too. Maybe JJ but I would be overly happy about it but I guess I would. I think id pass anything else at this particular point, 1010 is like the cut off point I think.

Btw im not arguing against your saying you will win a larger % of the time than you will lose. I reckon you would win the pot by calling here about 55-60% of the time with the 77. My argument is that you REALLY should avoid calling for your whole stack in coinflippy type scenarios in tournaments (unless you had like 4 or 5bb or summat real low). I think in a tournament GUARANTEEING yourself a 40-50% chance of going out of the tournament it is a pretty dodgy decision to say the least.
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