Novelty bets will not be a second division forum Rick. It will be a forum in it's own right where people can sit and discuss things at their leisure in a rightfull place. We aint hiding it away we're giving it it's own window. I can read the words Novelty Bets quite fine and my eyes are terrible Rick. If i want to discuss Novelty Bets then i go to the novelty bet forum. If i want to discuss the next darts championship i go to the Other sports forum. I don't see Im a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here as being a Sport. does anyone?
It's well known people don't like change. I remember when i opened up the Horse Racing forum on June '02 on PL. I had to fight to get that opened would you believe. People saw no need for that. Now i believe its pretty popular. I see the novelty bets forum in the same way. We could still be keeping the Who's gonna be the new pope thread going in 4 years time. If it was mashed in with all the rugby, cricket, NFL, NHL etc im pretty sure that the thread/s will be long forgotten about.
Nothing is being 'hived' away Rick. It's just that we're looking at trying to keep the forum more compact so as people can see more forums on their screen at one time. this is why fforum descriptions have been cut as well who really reads them 2 weeks after joining? Having to scroll down an endless list of forums just to get to poker for instance isnt good for folks. If we give people more to see on one screen then they are more likely to get involved. It's all about tightening up and optomising rick.
Eurovision gets it's own front page forum as
Paddy Power are sponsoring our euroision competition once i sort a few things out with them. thats why it needs to be on the front page as we'll need to add a banner to it etc. Rags to Riches and tipster proofing are under Bet, help chat and links as because ...well i don't like them and no one has said otherwise to me yet so if i can get away with taking them off being a front page forum then i will. Sorry. Its a seperate issue but to me r2r is almost a joke forum. 'lets play at being gamblers yyeeeahhhhh'
As i say Rick i just want to make the place the best for you all as i can and yes there will be a few teething problems with everything. I like your suggestion that the subforum's text could be bigger and i'll look at improving on that. As i say the bottom line is Rick is that we need to have the forum as compact as we can and we need to offer as much as we can as people are easily bored especially if they have to sit around waiting on you lot to post anything (that wasn't a vote winner was it?
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I hope i have answered most of your questions so far Rick and keep the comments and critism coming folks. If everyone posts on here that the subforums are not to their liking and they want less choice and bigger forums to scroll down then i suppose i'm screwed.