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Oh and for the record, a pal of mine plays high stakes cash and makes 70k+ a month, he (or any of the crowd that play on his tables) has never used any form of poker office/tracker nor does he ever intend to, thinking being that it would turn him into an ABC player and ABC poker goes out the window at that level. Never been on these tables and never likely to so personally I can't comment, just thought I would mention.

Think I can see the benefits for hobby type players like myself to make a quid or 2 here and there but all that stat/figure watching would take the fun out it for me. In my 2 year playing I find that anytime I try to knuckle down and take it serious it wastes it for me, in turn I lose patience and blow my stack. I'm giving up cash, for good this time, honest, and going back to MTT's which is the very place I've had all my poker success. My whole mentality changes when I play cash and if I'm honest I'm never relaxed and having fun, MTT I pay my money, relax and enjoy the thrill of the ride. Each to their own though of course.

Alex what's your views on the people who play the game "properly"? Don't you think that the majority of them would be as well having their cards showing?