[Keith]

My first point is merely following up something komp did.

Following my initial disgust at the PM controversy at PL I registered with The Betting Advice Forum last Friday and in fact wrote a few posts there.

I have now edited my signature at that forum to read "can also be found at www.thedailypunt.com" . I propose to continue to post there as a means of promoting your baby.

However, this being the end of the footie season and with me off to Berlin for 9 days from this weekend it may no be terribly effective just yet.

Perhaps others may like to do something similar.

My second point concerns our friends at punters paradise. I see that a few have dropped by with good wishes.

The last bust up with PL was before my time. I do not know any of the personalities involved and until the last few days I have never visited their forum.

I can therefore give an objective opinion about them and I hope that they do not take offence if they do not entirely agree with my thoughts.

Anyway, they all seem like very decent pleasant, honest and dedicated punters. But I don't get the impression that it is very vibrant or that there is any great drive or enthusiasm. Now maybe that suits the present members to have their own cosy club but it doesn't encourage newcomers.

If they are hoping to grow then it could be to the mutual benefit of both forums if there was some sharing of posters/tipsters with similar signatures as mentioned above pointing out to casual lurkers/readers that the other forum exists