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Old 27-01-2008, 19:12
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29/30th Jan English Premiership

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29 Jan 19:45 Arsenal v Newcastle 1.30 4.50 10.00
29 Jan 19:45 Bolton v Fulham 1.80 3.25 4.33
29 Jan 19:45 Middlesbrough v Wigan 1.90 3.10 4.00
29 Jan 20:00 Sunderland v Birmingham 2.37 3.10 2.87
30 Jan 19:45 Chelsea v Reading 1.20 5.50 13.00
30 Jan 19:45 Derby v Man City 5.00 3.40 1.66
30 Jan 19:45 Everton v Tottenham 2.37 3.20 2.80
30 Jan 19:45 West Ham v Liverpool 3.75 3.30 1.90
30 Jan 20:00 Man Utd v Portsmouth 1.25 5.00 11.00

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Old 27-01-2008, 21:06
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

On first thoughts i really cant see past man utd, chelsea and arsenal home wins, the treble would pay out around 6/5 a great treble in my opinion
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Old 27-01-2008, 22:54
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

Can't argue with that Cinny and i might even push the boat out and add Bolton to that list.

The others are just a mishmash of fixtures that i may need my lucky pin for.
Man City odds on away from home after tonights performance is a piss take if Richards doesnt play again as without him even Derby will create chances.

I'm with Cinny though first and foremost on that treble as it does look nailed on.
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Old 27-01-2008, 22:59
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

On paper it looks incredible, no explanations needed, utd are constantly delivering the goods while pompey are short a number of their africans..chelsea are rock solid at home this past few games while reading are terrible away and arsenal just thumped newcastle 3-0 yesterday. I also agree with you Slick on Bolton Fulham are horrific on their travels, they should register a win. Im gonna go with the treble and maybe make a small accy with a few others..
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Old 27-01-2008, 23:12
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

Laying Boro odds on i will be for sure.

Have seen their last 3 games and have been absolutely astonished by how poor a side they are.

They are a side filled with players who shouldn't be anywhere near a premiership club.

Cattermole, Rochemback, Arca...List goes on. Very very poor side with no creativity in the side.

Woodgate on his way which will be a big blow to them defensively. Mido is back but looks a bit overweight and his touch looks to have deserted him.

They have always been a poor side but have been bailed out by having some quality attackers in their side such as Viduka and Yakubu.

Struggled to make 2 passes in their FA cup tie and i think Wigan could even take the 3 points here.

I like where they are going at the minute and are playing some decent football, just need to get the breaks.

Palacios looks a very decent signing and he could be the difference in keeping Wigan up i feel.

Joke price on Boro and i will certainly be laying them.

Agree with that treble also. Looks a VERY good price for what shoud be a formality. 3 sides who are very consistent and strong at home. I really can't see any of them dropping points.
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Old 27-01-2008, 23:31
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

Everton (2.45) and West Ham (4.20) look good value to me on first glance.

Everton should be ok favourites for this one. I think were better than Spurs now and were at home so should be lower odds than that price. West Ham purely because I wouldnt be surprised to see them win, they quite often give the big sides a going over, id give Liverpool the edge but to no great extent.
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Old 28-01-2008, 10:21
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

Jonathan Woodgate goes to Arsenal,later today

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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

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Jonathan Woodgate goes to Arsenal,later today

Arsenal -Newcastle (-1) x,
haf read on the rumours, well if it's a done deal then it'll be good i believe, at least until toure returns, senderous never fills me with confidence when he plays, it's fine if one of the defenders dun do his job, but not so when he becomes a liability! saying which i'm not too sure how good's woodgate honestly, haven seen much of him...

back onto the fixtures, agree on everton's chances, they are a solid outfit, goes about getting the work done without fuss, and i believe they din haf any FA cup action over the weekend, adding to spurs high-tempo clash with manutd with an ejection midway thru second half, advantage to the host

liverpool's another which i like, although i cant back them with confidence. the two goals conceded to havant, despite not playing with full squad really dun bode well for the premiership giants. if i were to back them, it's not so much on form, they havent got any to speak of in the first place, rather it's west ham's indifferent home form coupled with the kop slightly better away form that tempts me.
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

I agree with the treble as well. Looks a storming bet. Possible big surprise?.....Fulham..if they score first, while Wigan have a superb chance vs Boro.


Arsenal v Newcastle

The 4th round FA Cup between these two was in no way a great spectacle of football, but it did shine some light on their respective tasks: Arsenal winning the League, and Newcastle just to start winning!.
Kevin Keegan must have seen some positives in the game, as they did hold out for nearly the hour, but ultimately it's the poor finishing and lack of creativity within his ranks that will have him reaching for the painkillers for a while yet. A fighting spirit, a new found desire...those were evident, just without an end product.

Wenger's still on track with his plans , but with Chelsea and Man Utd showing no signs of stopping in theirs, he'll be feeling the pressure to keep his squad as fluid as they have been. The Magpies gave them a lot to deal with in the opening 45mins at the weekend , and with a bit of luck that scoreline would have been different. I've seen fatigue creeping in with some Arsenal players, so any breakdowns in their passing game will leave them open to the more flowing footballing sides, but luckily Newcastle are not there yet...but getting closer with each game.

Arsenal have beaten them in both the FA and the League Cups this season, but only drew 1-1 in the Premiership, so they hold all the cards here at The Emirates.

Newcastle to score @ 1.80 bluesq.

Bolton v Fulham
Bolton p.a, post anelka, look just as they were p.m. , pre megson. The lack of a sure fire striker up front is so evident in their resorting to the now classic Bolton long ball game. Throw-ins, set pieces , over the top...etc...it never changes. With the cash injection from Anelka's sale you'd think a decent target man with some quality experience would be on the wish list.
Davies has his admirers, me included, but he won't win you games through his scoring.

Fulham desperately need a result especially after exiting the FA Cup on penalties to Bristol Rovers.
Seems such a long time now since the opening day 'nearly upset' vs Arsenal when they led 1-0 with only 5 mins to go. Only 2 wins all season, the last on Nov 3rd '07, they're now stuck firmly in the relegation zone on 15ts and no real solution in sight. Roy Hodgson has a wealth of experience at top levels, but is he the man for the battle that lies ahead? Like Sanchez he's favours the shirt and tie look, but that may be what he ends up hanging by if the rest of the season doesn't get any better!

Bolton certainly know how to stop a team such as Fulham playing, so expect a war of attrition in the fight for precious points. Fulham need some self belief in tablet form, I think, as their performances do nothing for them. With the Trotters short on goal scorers just now there is no better time for the Cottagers to knock in a fast start and take the game to them.

Fulham +0.75 @ 1.71 betchronicle

Middlesbrough v Wigan
Be still my beating heart!...Boro vs Wigan...what a joy. Maybe a bit unfair actually, as Wigan have shown improved form under Bruce The Destroyer , while Boro have clawed their way into the 5th round draw of the Cup.
The fact that Boro are ranked 19th for their Home record this season with only 2 victories at The Riverside , but one of those 2 coming against Arsenal, gives you a clear indication of the unresolved issues that Southgate is struggling with. Mido has been injured forever it seems, while one bright light , Woodgate, looks to be off. With a GFA 0.86 they should be getting relegated , but will no doubt find a way out.

Wigan won the reverse fixture 1-0, and have another great chance to do so again, bow that a couple of recent signings have added some polish to the grit. Much like Bolton/Fulham , this is a match that sees one side that cannot score vs another that scores but just not enough! The Latics are on a run of 9 straight with goals , so no reason why it will stop here. A good account of themselves vs Chelsea in the FA Cup will surely have set them up nicely for a trip to sunny Boro.

Wigan +0.25 @ 2.30 betchronicle / Wigan score first @ 2.62 bluesq

Sunderland v Birmingham
With only 3 defeats at Home, from Man Utd, Liverpool and Blackburn , Sunderland have shown how tough they are on their own patch. At the start of the season it took a last minute strike to secure a point against Birmingham, but things have changed since then. The reality of Premierhsip life has sunk in, and 18th spot in the relegation zone is all Roy Keane is concerned about these days....the Home record is just not important. New signings, a Swedish striker, and ex-Man Utd defender, Bardsley, should see some action in the hope that a new '15 game era' can be started and survival attained.

Birmingham gave Arsenal, Chelsea, and Man Utd all tough games, in what was quite easily the hardest 3 game stretch of any club in the league. Single goal defeats to Man Utd and Chelsea bookened a spirited 1-1 draw with the Gunners. There should be a massive injection of confidence from those games and with a trip to Sunderland maybe no the easiest on paper, it is way way below what they have been facing. Can they raise their game for the bottom clubs as they did for the top?
McLeish still has a long way to go to have the team in the shape he wants it, but the omens are good. New striker, Argentinian Mauro Zarate will have his chance to make an immediate impact.

Birmingham DNB @ 2.35 betchronicle

Chelsea v Reading
Chelsea just keep on truckin! Relentless? Lucky? Determined? ....whatever it is they have done the basics: won. Unbeaten in 2008, all comps....that's great stuff when you consider the absentees they've had to contend with. When they last faced Reading they were 1-0 down at half time, but fought back to win 2-1. Another win is on the cards here.

With 9 of their 15 wins this season all by a single goal margin, it's fair to say that Chelsea have been running it close , and as mentioned previously in these columns, backing against them on the Asian handicap has been most profitable...so will it be again?.

Reading have not shown much fight on their travels, an issue highlighted by them still awaiting 3 pts for an away win: 0-3-8. Currently on a losing streak of 4 in a row, Steve Coppell can't be having high hopes of this tie being the 'change' he's been looking for.
A run of scoring in 15 straight came to a halt on New Years Day vs Portsmouth. Two more have followed suit. It's a worry, and with no major signings to speak of, it's likely to get worse before getting better.

Reading +1.75 @ 1.98 188Bet

Derby v Man. City
How low can Derby go? The FA Cup debacle with all of their new signings on show was a real disaster. Even the most die-hard fan must be giving up on them. The frustrating thing is that the talent is there. It is. I don't see ability as being the question. It's all about the players getting it together under massive pressure. Either they will or they won't. And at the moment it's a clear case of 'they won't'.

Man City were dumped put of the Cup as well. This time it was Sven's turn to suck it see as Bryan Robson's Blades cut up City from the off. The balloon assisted goal was a farce, but it's turning points like that can shape a season. Robson may save his job because of it, while Sven's campaign might just have been burst. You never know. Certainly this match will be a must win for City, as playing the worst club in the league and not taking all the points will be a nightmare for them. Knocked out 2 Cups in succession, and then Derby?....that's too much!

Man City @ 1.72 boylesport

Everton v Tottenham
This should be a great match to watch with both sides having been in top attacking form of late. Everton have won their last 3 in the league and put in a good effort against Chelsea in the Cup. If you take out their losses to Man Utd and Arsenal, then they are undefeated in the last 11 games. That's a solid effort by any standard, and with 7 clean sheets in there as well, it all adds up to this season being a real chance of getting that 4th place.

Spurs lost 3-1 to Man Utd in the FA Cup , and that took the shine of their 5-1 mauling of Arsenal 4 days previously in the Carling Cup semi-final. As with a lot of their games away from White Hart Lane, Spurs just can't find their feet the way they do at home. They've lost the last 3 'away' and struggle to score in general, with a GFA of 1.00 compared to their Home GFA 2.90. It's a big problem and Ramos needs to get it sorted pronto.
Spurs have only scored in the opening 30 mins of an away match twice...and they were in the same match: Fulham 3-3. Everton were 3-1 up at HT the last time they met, and another quick start will end this game as well.

1st G/s (e/way, 1,2,3 1/4 odds): Lescott @ 26.00 paddypower / A goal to be scored in the 1st half @ 1.64 betchronicle (great bet!)

West Ham v Liverpool
Liverpool managed to drop their 4th successive '2pts' against Villa last week with a 2-2 draw , but in reality they actually 'saved' a point in that match thanks to a Crouch equaliser in the 88th minute. Man City/Wigan/Middlesbrough/Villa.....not exactly a Hall of Fame list , but Liverpool found them all too good. The FA Cup gave them a little care as well, with minnows Havant & Waterlooville taking the lead twice before the mighty Reds asserted and won 5-2.
Still, conceding 2 goals in the manner they did is a big concern. The Press and public may have loved it, but you can be sure Rafa and the board did not. A very solid and professional display is required against West Ham, but the dip in 'dominating' play is a worry and one to be exploited.

West Ham meet Liverpool for the first time this season much later than normal. Last season saw Liverpool do the double 2-1 , extending their unbeaten run against them to 10. The last Hammers win was back in Nov '99, so not a lot going for them on the statistics side of things. I think 'erratic' would best sum up their season, with some wonderful highlights , Man Utd 2-1 and Derby 5-0 , but not enough overall.

They've scored first 11 times but only won three of those, with 7 ending in defeat, and it's that lack of closing out matches that has hampered their campaign. Only 3 defeats in the last 14 league games is something to build on, something to be proud of, so a good result here may well be the springboard that Curbishley has been hoping for.

Over 2.5 @ 2.29 betchronicle


Man. United v Portsmouth
Man Utd must be loving life at the moment with top spot in the EPL, Champions League football secured and a nice FA Cup run on the go. Not bad at all. Fergie, unlike Wenger, doesn't believe in the '2 teams' for the FA Cup , so their meeting in the 5th round will be interesting , although that all depends on what's in his diary that week. Prioritising has never been an issue for him.
The last 3 league games have returned 9 goals and clean sheets in all of them. Even when they went down against Spurs in the Cup, they fought back to win 3-1....all is good on the land of the Devils.

Pompey will be hoping for a repeat of their early season 1-1 draw, as that would be great point to take away from this trip to OT. Considering that they're only scoring in 50% of their games recently, you have to wonder how safe their top 10 place is. the 3-1 win over Derby last time was a big relief not just for the league table, but also for Portsmouth's Benjani, as he'd gone 10 games with only scoring once.
With his key players on ACN duty I think Harry could be in a for a right kicking here, so a 4-5-1 it will be and pray for a stroke of luck.

Rooney to score @ 2.50 bet365 / Man Utd to win to nil @ 1.83 paddypower / Ronaldo to score with a header @ 12.00 ladbrokes
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Old 28-01-2008, 21:04
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

I'll start with Tuesdays games as i have a bit to be getting on with....

Arsenal v Newcastle
As allready mentioned this should be a shoe in for the Gunners as they have far to much class as was shown last week in the Carling cup against a piss poor Newcastle side at the moment.

It won't be all plain sailing mind as Newcastle did spring a surprise against them a few weeks back and Arsenal are known to slip up now and again against average opposition but now we are into the buisness side of the Prem league fixtures theres isnt much room for many more mistakes and tell the truth I can't see Newcastle springing any, not with the way Adebayor seems to be playing lately anyhow as there seems no stopping him.

Arsenal Win, +2.5 goals, Adebayor to score.

Bolton v Fulham
Another one i feel fairly confident about allthough Bolton not having the greatest of results lately do look dangerous and are playing in a style that were used to seeing them play under Megson.

Anelka is a huge miss for them since his transfer to Chelsea and Diouf being out on African nations duty does leave them lacking slightly up front but i still think they will be more of a match for a Fulham side stuck in the doldrums at the moment and looking certain relegation material.

I thought Steinsson on his debut looked a pretty handy player and fills a hole that Bolton needing filling badly as Hunt doesnt seem the player he once was and the fella doesnt mind bombing forward either adding support to the Bolton attack.

Fulham on the other hand just don't seem at the races lately but with Bullard now back he could change there fortune in the long run allthough i have a feeling he'll need a few more games under his belt yet.

Overall i have a feeling Boltons work ethic should see them pinch this one either 1 or 2 nil.

Bolton Win.

Middlesbrough v Wigan
Best to keep ure cash safely in the pocket for this one as both sides seem to be in a similar vane of form at the moment.

Watched Wigan at the weekend against Chelsea and they did put up a decent display no doubt from having a full strength squad for the first time in a while and now they have Marlon King added to it things should only improve.

Bruce seems to have done a sound job at the JJB and will be looking to get something from this game in his quest to steer Wigan clear of relegation.

Southgate also seems to be picking up results here and there of late after a disasterous start to the season allthough i don't think it was a wise move selling his best defender at this stage of the season.

He no doubt thinks he can live without Woodgate but the proof will be in the pudding come the end of the season.

Still at least Boro now seem able to score on a pretty frequent basis but are far to unpredictable to take them at those prices offered.

No bet for me but if i were to have a tinker i'd go the Kiko route and lay Middlesbrough.

Sunderland v Birmingham
Another game i'm inclined to leave well alone as again both sides are in a similar vane of form.

Kieran Richardsons absence once more will be a big blow to Sunderland as his return did coincide with their change in fortunes but with the big man Kenwyn Jones up front the black cats are more than capable of scoring against Birmingham.

Mcleash though has worked wonders since his arrival and has turned Birmingham into a pretty tough nut to crack as Arsenal , Chelsea and Man U have found out recently and it will be interesting to see how both sides tackle this game which is a proverbial six pointer.

The odds look about right here and if i were pushed to give a result i'd sit on the fence and opt for the draw.
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Old 29-01-2008, 00:10
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

just being logical about my bets I make it that the gunners are under priced, and I will be laying them.

wigan worth a punt at around 4.5, the other games are unpredictable imo and I cant see any value in them.

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Old 29-01-2008, 16:52
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Can I introduce my self? i'm working in one bookmaker firm. I tracked accounts every day and some times i noticed Big differences in "MONEY voting" you can believe or NOT but today is almost 90% chance to win have BOLTON, I bet on Bolton as well.I suggest everybody who read my post bet on Bolton!
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Old 29-01-2008, 16:58
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Re: 29/30th Jan English Premiership

and I suggest that you are a twat
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Old 29-01-2008, 17:06
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Ohh shit. I have already placed my bet on Fulham
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thats a nice welcome odm :roll

I'm having a couple of bob on Birmingham tonight. Not much between these teams but I think with the likes of McFadden being added to the squad by McLeish then they will truely be a tough nut to crack. They've also got some Argentinian as well. Murphy from Hibs I dont think is fit but with McLeish adding to the squad and maybe more to come I think the 'regulars' might have to play for their spot and if Birmingham can get a result away to Arsenal then I'm willing to have a wee punt on them getting one against Sunderland.

Granted Sunderland also have a couple of signings but I think Birminghams ones will have a bigger impact.

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