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Falkirk v ICT

Background

After season's of near misses for one reason or another, Falkirk have finally made it back to Scotland's top flight. And after moving from run down Brockville, they look to have their club in good shape to make a real fight of staying in the league. A storming season last year has seen much of that squad stay intact, with a hanful of further signings to prepare them for this seasons.

Caley were in Falkirk's position last year - the new boys widely predicted for the drop. Under John Robertson and the Craig Brewster they combined solid effort and strong organisation to end up 8th in the league and confound the pundits.

Signings

ICT missed out on Derek Adams to Livi today, and have only added Craig Dargo in the close season. He is a player who showed superb promise as a youngster at Raith Rovers, but his big move to Killie didn't translate into a good move for the player, and Dargo has done little of note in the last 5 seasons. This might well represent his last chance to really make something of his career.

Falkirk have been more active, signing 7 players. Alan Gow from Airdrie will add some flair in the middle of the park, while Mick Glennon and Steven Thompson from the Coca Cola Leagues look experienced enough to be positive signings. Others such as Kenny Milne and Craig Ireland will have a chance to prove themselves at SPL level, which they didnt really do in previous spells in the top flight.

Team News

Falkirk have very few problems, and manager John Hughes has stated he already knows his first eleven, and that he is excited by it. Expect starts for Gow, Latapy and McBreen who will all be expected to create the chances to save the club this season. Falkirk will look again to Daryll Duffy to finish these chances after his successful season last year, which culminated in an U21 call up. He may well find life tough this season, but should find joy against some of the weaker SPL sides.

Big news for ICT is the loss to injury of Juanjo, arguably their best and most creative player. He adds the flair and skill to one of the more workmanlike squads in the division, and players like Barry Wilson and Ritchie Hart will have to work much harder to provide for the front pairing.

First Game Effect

I see this as very important here. Livingston's first game after being promoted at a packed out Almondvale with 10,000 watching v Hearts had a very special atmosphere, which spurred the side on to beat the 3rd best team in Scotland(at the time) 2-1. ICT won both their first 'home game' v Dunfermline 2-0 last year, and in Inverness at their new stadium 2:0 v Dunfermline again.

Tomorrow will be a sell out at the Westfield, and with the unfurling of the First Division flag it is sure to be a special atmosphere and a very one sided crowd(ICT have 975 tickets for the game.)

H2Hs

2003/2004 Sat 01 May Inverness CT 0 - 0 Falkirk SCD1
2003/2004 Tue 02 Mar Falkirk 2-1 Inverness CT SCD1
2003/2004 Sat 01 Nov Inverness CT 1 - 2 Falkirk SCD1
2003/2004 Sat 09 Aug Falkirk 2 - 1 Inverness CT SCD1
2002/2003 Sat 10 May Falkirk 2 - 3 Inverness CT SCD1
2002/2003 Sat 08 Feb Inverness CT 3 - 4 Falkirk SCD1
2002/2003 Sat 14 Dec Falkirk 1 - 1 Inverness CT SCD1

Falkirk with the edge overall with 4 wins from the last 7, and at home as well.

Summary

Its a good game for Falkirk to start with, as ICT haven't been able to strengthen during the close season and have lost possibly their most influential player to injury. With the special atmosphere at the Westfield, I'm backing Falkirk to get off to a winning start. 2.70 looks good here, but I would avoid anything below that Paddy Power price.

Falkirk to beat ICT - 3pts @ 2.70 with Paddy Power

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SPL Weekend 30th/31st July (Football)

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OutcomeOddsTotal BetsTotal Staked
Motherwell8/1 (8.00) 120
Draw10/3 (3.33) 00
Celtic3/10 (0.30) 00
Dundee United6/4 (1.50) 150
Draw11/5 (2.20) 00
Aberdeen6/4 (1.50) 00
Falkirk11/8 (1.38) 150
Draw11/5 (2.20) 00
ICT13/8 (1.63) 00
Hibs8/13 (0.62) 3130
Draw12/5 (2.40) 00
Dunfermline4/1 (4.00) 00
Killie13/8 (1.63) 00
Draw11/5 (2.20) 00
Hearts11/8 (1.38) 2100
Rangers1/7 F(0.14) 00
Draw5/1 (5.00) 00
Livingston12/1 (12.00) 00
Rangers (Derby Coupon)4/5 (0.80) 150
Draw (Derby Coupon)4/1 (4.00) 00
Celtic (Derby Coupon)17/10 (1.70) 00




Is it just me this is closed too???
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

I won't be getting involved for a while yet as I like have some form to go on. The coupon on which of the old Firm will score more goals in their weekend matches had some great prices last season. Rangers at 4/5 this week looks attractive.

I reckon the gap between the Old Firm and the likes of Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen will narrow this season. Dundee Utd have flattered to deceive over the past few seasons and will do very well to finish above the teams above. I don't see it myself but if anybody is going to go better than braodly expected in the SPL I think it can only be United.

Another dog fight at the bottom is a possibility and a repeat of last season's basement battle would be good for the game and keep the pot boiling at a time when meaningless matches come to the fore. If anybody is going to be tailed off, Falkirk would have to be my choice and if they don't get out of the traps and take some points in their first few matches it could happen as the others are seasoned survival campaigners apart from ICT who did very well last season but could find it tougher this time.

Cracking stuff Beanie and a lot of other quality info too. Looking forward to getting more involved in the weeks ahead.
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Why can't I bet on the SPL in vbookie. I've got plenty of points?
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strange, no prob folks ill sort it even if it means having two vbookies
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soz forgot the link, can you bet in the one in the Summer Comp forum?
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

You could have a point there fasteddy about the Over 2.5 there. A quick look at the stats shows 7 out of the last 9 meetings played at Hibs have been Over. Other factors add up to probably make that a fair bet.

The more I look at that game, the more I want to back Hibs. Everything I look at points to Dunfermline struggling this season. If they make a bad start, the likes of Hibs will at much shorter odds against them for games like this. Hmmm
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Only one I really like the look of is Hibs to beat Dunfermline.

Hibs are near enough the same as last season, Murray the only miss albeit a big one. Having said that my Hibs supporting mate said he was great first half of the season at centre half but once Hibs realised he was on his way they mucked him about in the 2nd half of the season, playing him at left back, right back and midfield. They still achieved good results but Murray was not in great form in these games.

They have added Michael Stewart who if he screws the nut could be a player. This is really his last chance and a player who promised so much could be finished at 25 if he doesn't sort his attitude. Whether he does or not is still open to debate. The fact that he was considering jacking football to go into property development says a lot about both his attitude to the game and also the money he already has behind him, possibly meaning he has lost some of his desire. He was at Hearts last season but didn't really produce despite it being the club he supported as a lad and his "dream move". Allegations of training ground altercations with then manager Levein would obviously not have helped his attitude improve at Hearts. This move could give him the chance to show them what they are missing out on.

The most important thing for Hibs was keeping Riordan and O'Conner. Both are still here at the present time and, as I said earlier, so is the majority of the side which played some superb football at times last season.

Again from my Hibs supporting mate, expect Beuzlin to have a good season this time, he was expected last season but was dogged with injuries. Caldwell will continue to inspire and organise at the back and young Whittaker (another alleged OF target) came onto a great game at right back last season.

The only doubts from last season were the goalie, Brown, not being regarded as good enough by most of the Hibs support. Whether the new goalie starts or not is still open to debate but by comments I have heard, he can only be an improvement.

The opponents are Dunfermline, stayed up by the skin of their teeth. Now lost their (good) goalie Stillie and probably their most high profile and best player Nicholson. Others have left too between last season and this, mainly squad players (Dempsey, Byrne and Mehmet today) but they all serve to weaken an already thin and poor squad.

Burchill has been added. Another example of the Celtic youth set up "stars" not actually being good enough in the "real world". A Scottish internationalist at a young age, he was lightening quick (but so was Linford Christie, didn't make him a good footy player) but had as much an undertsanding of the offside rule as Pippo Inzaghi. He kicked about here, there and everywhere after leaving Celtic to no affect whatsoever. I would be surprised if he had mustered double figures for goals in a season anywhere he has been since leaving Celtic and I don't think he will be getting 10 this season at Pars either. The fact he might have ex Rosyth Rec centre half Andy Tod, 33 and about 15st up front beside him will not help matters.

Leishman did well to raise morale last season when Pars were in a perilous position and that, and that alone, saved them from relegation. Its now the new season and Leishman can't get away with a few poems and patting Sammy the Tammy on the heid to inspire the team, he has to start trying to actually pass tactics on to them. Maybe he could do that 10 years ago but not now I am afraid.

The best about is 1.63 at Canbet and I am willing to take that. I reckon anything about 1.57 is a good price for Hibs tomorrow and I expect a young confident side on the up and up to take care of a Dunfermline side on the downward slope.
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

http://www.pieandbovril.co.uk/forum/...howtopic=21547


Everyone on this P&B thread reckons Hibs will beat Dunfermline (bar one Hearts fan )
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Top thread & info lads ....gives us something to live up to with the English starting soon

Youve talked me into Hearts & possibly Hibs by the way.......
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Got to agree Crowie - If Michael Stewart screws the nut then he will make it in a bigger way.

I read in one of the papers that he dominated one of Hibs pre-seasons and looked class.

Haven't backed Hibs but swaying towards them.
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Get your name into BBC's Prediction League brought to us by Kegman
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I've got my SPL scores in

Sorry im still a bit adminny at the moment but that will change. What do you reckon for the season lads? Scots Thread or a SPL and another for the 1-2-3?
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Out of interest whats Dunfermline's record at Hibs?
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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Komp,

Looking about at traffic and that of other forums I'd recommend you split the two!

Just to let you know I've decided that Rangers to outscore Celtic (1.8) is too good a bet to miss so I followed the links on here and signed up to hills.

I hope you can see the info in the relevant place and that tomorrow will set the tone for the rest of the season.

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Re: SPL Weekend 30th/31st July

Not to many draws (two to be precise) - 2003/2004 doesn't make good reading if your on Hibs. na they should do it ?


2004/2005
Hibernian 2-1 Dunfermline Athletic 18-12-2004
2003/2004
Hibernian 1-2 Dunfermline Athletic 21-12-2003
Hibernian 0-2 Dunfermline Athletic 06-03-2003
Hibernian 1-3 Dunfermline Athletic 15-02-2003
Hibernian 1-4 Dunfermline Athletic 11-09-2002
2001/2002
Hibernian 1-1 Dunfermline Athletic 16-02-2002
Hibernian 5-1 Dunfermline Athletic 16-09-2001
2000/2001
Hibernian 3-0 Dunfermline Athletic 09-12-2000

Hibernian 4-1 Dunfermline Athletic 29-01-2000
1997/1998
Hibernian 1-0 Dunfermline Athletic 10-01-1998
Hibernian 5-2 Dunfermline Athletic 13-09-1997
1996/1997
Hibernian 1-0 Dunfermline Athletic 08-03-1997
Hibernian 0-0 Dunfermline Athletic 24-08-1996
1994/1995
Hibernian 2-0 Dunfermline Athletic 30-08-1994
1991/1992
Hibernian 2-0 Dunfermline Athletic 27-10-1991
Hibernian 3-0 Dunfermline Athletic
Hibernian 5-0 Dunfermline Athletic
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