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Old 03-09-2007, 06:55
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The Cards With The Most Outs

Does anyone have a diagram of a hand after the flop and then river etc that has the most outs possible. I dont even know what the most outs you could have. 17?
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:59
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Re: The Cards With The Most Outs

I'd guess it would be something like having KQs on a flop with a JTs (same as your KQ) and a low card - e.g. 2 or 3

If you're up against a hand like 88 you're currently behind, but any 9 or A makes you a straight, there are 7 other suited cards making you a flush, and 3 queens and 3 Kings making you a higher pair. You also have outs if the turn and river are tens and jacks - making two overpairs on the board, and your King kicker beating his 8.

That would, very simplistically, be 21-22 outs (although on some of them he'll re-draw to beat you.
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Old 04-09-2007, 16:18
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Re: The Cards With The Most Outs

I was thinking more like KQ spades on flop J 10 J with 2 spades vs a pair lower than 88 (eg. 55 without a spade for this example)

Outs = A K Q 10 9 plus any spade

4 Aces
3 Kings
3 Queens
3 Tens
4 Nines
6 Spades

So it's 23 outs twice at least on the flop, if a 6,7 or 8 comes on the turn that's 3 more outs so it's 26 I believe.

It would be handy to run the numbers on a poker odds calculator to get the exact percentages but of the top of my head it should be something like 66-70% fav on the flop and 55-60% on turn, i'll run it and see how close I am.

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Old 04-09-2007, 16:30
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Re: The Cards With The Most Outs

Ok ran the numbers 70.10% on flop and 56.82% on turn.

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Old 05-09-2007, 14:26
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Re: The Cards With The Most Outs

when considering your outs, don't forget nouts (or negative outs)- outs of yours which can help your opponent make the best hand..
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