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Old 19-10-2007, 18:15
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Champions day - and more besides

Right as not one of you has started a thread about what in my opinion is the last major highlight of the flat season.

Yes its Newmarket, yes its Saturday the 20th of October BUT no its not the Cesarewitch!!

I am obviously talking about the biggest 2YO race of the season the Darley Dewhurst. There is one horse in this race that really catches my imagination and it is New Approach. At 6/4 he looks a decent prospect, won really well at the Curragh and this weekend should confirm the order with Rio De La Plata. The two who may give New Approach something to worry about is the unbeaten Ravens Pass and the recent Champagne winner Mccartney.

However, I have never seen a horse that gallops as well as New Approach, that run at the Curragh was amazing and I think he had plenty left in the tank that day. If he did he is some amazing prospect.


There are other races tomorrow as well!!!

The Cesarewitch... well I have a shortlist...

1. Macorville
2. Som Tala
3. Fair Along
4. Al Eile

I think the draw has gone against Samurai Way, and I wasn't really in favour of the Cumani runner anyhow. I like Som Tala, the run in the Chester Cup was amazing, coming with a wet sail at the end to run into the places. Fair Along will be up with the pace throughout and looks like a galloper who will be suited by the track. Al Eile is a horse I have great respect for and at 28/1 looks a good EW punt.

I will have some forecasts with those 4 choices as well as little EW singles.

The Champion stakes looks interesting, many things have been said about the group 1 winner Notnowcato, including that he is an unfair group 1 winner. I am of the opinion that he has a leading claim in this race, BUT I look at the bare form and I decide the value lies elsewhere.
I think the 3yo will be the ones to beat here, the classic generation looks a good one with the likes of Eagle Mountain and Literato being leading lights in races like this. Add to that the return of Mount Nelson and the ever competitive Creachidoir and I think one of these will win this. I am having a little on all three EW with forecasts too.
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Old 19-10-2007, 18:57
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

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The Champion stakes looks interesting, many things have been said about the group 1 winner Notnowcato, including that he is an unfair group 1 winner. .

That's a bit harsh. It ran further than all the others and still beat them
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Old 19-10-2007, 19:03
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

ODM I think there is some merit in the arguement that Notnowcato's group 1 wins have been in tactically run races which can give the impression that the horse is perhaps not as good as horses who win in geniunely run races.

I think he is a group 1 class horse but others in this race are open to more improvement than he is. He ran poorly in this race last season and has been kept on the go for a long time now. I think that could be one of the determining factors tomorrow.
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Old 19-10-2007, 19:06
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If you say so mate. You're the man
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Old 19-10-2007, 19:10
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

haha well I am on a great run at the minute.

What are your views on tomorrows racing?
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Old 20-10-2007, 06:22
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

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Right as not one of you has started a thread about what in my opinion is the last major highlight of the flat season.

Yes its Newmarket, yes its Saturday the 20th of October BUT no its not the Cesarewitch!!

I am obviously talking about the biggest 2YO race of the season the Darley Dewhurst. There is one horse in this race that really catches my imagination and it is New Approach. At 6/4 he looks a decent prospect, won really well at the Curragh and this weekend should confirm the order with Rio De La Plata. The two who may give New Approach something to worry about is the unbeaten Ravens Pass and the recent Champagne winner Mccartney.

However, I have never seen a horse that gallops as well as New Approach, that run at the Curragh was amazing and I think he had plenty left in the tank that day. If he did he is some amazing prospect.

Saw him going to post at Leopardstown on only his second run and he oused class, which fingers crossed he continues to show again today.


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New Approach A really well bred colt . Trained by J.Bolger. Really impressive looking , mover won first two races in really taking fashion. I've backed him @25/1 both for Derby and 2000gns this morning. I think we will here alot more about this one. Bolger missed out with Teofilo this season but maybe 2008 will see New Approach turn into a star
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Old 20-10-2007, 07:20
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Good luck all

I've not seen New Approach run, i'm taking your word for it, the rest are mine.

Cheltenham
3.30 Harmony Brig (1)

Kelso
3.20 The Crazy Parson (2)
3.50 Snow’s Ride (3)

Catterick
3.05 Strike Up The Band (4)
3.40 Atheer Dubai (5)

Newmarket
2.40 New Approach (6)
3.15 Creachadoir (7)


Selections 1 - 3
1 x 20p e.w Patent

Selections 4 - 7
1 x 20p e.w Yankee

7 x 50p wins
35 x 10p win 4 folds
21 x 10p e.w 5 folds
7 x 10p e.w 6 folds
1 x 10p e..w Accumulator

£20.00 Staked
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Old 20-10-2007, 13:13
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

Dr Dino in the Emirates for me , classy French horse ,also took Marcoville in the big race , both E/W.
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Old 20-10-2007, 13:35
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Got a sneaky feeling Dark Angel may make the frame.
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Old 20-10-2007, 13:37
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

small bet today

BET 1

Selection 1
Selection McCartney @ 17/2
Market Win or Each Way
Event Newmarket
2.40 - Dewhurst Stakes
2007-10-20 14:40:00

Selection 2
Selection Sunley Peace @ 11/1
Market Win or Each Way
Event Newmarket
3.55 - totesport Cesarewitch
2007-10-20 15:55:00

Selection 3
Selection Free World @ 25/1
Market Win or Each Way
Event Cheltenham
5.50
2007-10-20 17:50:00

Selection 4
Selection Gangsters R Us @ 16/1
Market Win or Each Way
Event Kelso
3.20
2007-10-20 15:20:00

Bet Type
Bet Type Each Way Lucky 15
Unit Stake £0.20
Number of Units x30
Total Stake £6.00
Time and Date Placed 2007-10-20 14:29:34




pays about 12k if they al come in
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Old 20-10-2007, 13:47
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Re: Champions day - and more besides

I told you about that horse - New Approach wins with so much guts and gusto. I hope you took the 25/1 MM, you will be onto a winner after today, will be one to watch if he progresses.

I took note of the run by Ravens Pass, that looks a good horse who on the good and firm ground will be a group 1 class horse IF he continues his improvement.
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Old 20-10-2007, 14:31
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The Champion stakes looks interesting, many things have been said about the group 1 winner Notnowcato, including that he is an unfair group 1 winner. I am of the opinion that he has a leading claim in this race, BUT I look at the bare form and I decide the value lies elsewhere.
I think the 3yo will be the ones to beat here, the classic generation looks a good one with the likes of Eagle Mountain and Literato being leading lights in races like this. Add to that the return of Mount Nelson and the ever competitive Creachidoir and I think one of these will win this. I am having a little on all three EW with forecasts too.
I think we need a result here too

1 Literato 7-2
2 Eagle Mountain 5-1
3 Doctor Dino 12-1
12 ran
Also: 9-4 Fav Notnowcato, 9-1 Creachadoir 4th
WIN £4.60
Ex £31.40 CSF £21.68
Tote Place £1.20, £2.10, £3.10


Thats two results today for me, and well done for the Doctor Dino tip too, got place money.
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Old 20-10-2007, 15:30
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some decent winners here, well played guys
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