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Old 19-09-2006, 16:49
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Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

Sick this,

I figured for slowplayed trips on the flop and thats why I went for the river CR. But urgh, a massive 3 bet? How often do you see someone push on a paired board and not have it..........................

I had played one hand previous with the villian in this hand. 3 handed I had raised his BB from the SB w AJo. He minreraised me which I called. The flop came 767two clubs which I checked, and he insta pushed 200 into a pot of 20 quid lol (I folded obv), now this hand comes up.......................

Game #3403467304: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2006/09/17 - 14:44:40 (ET)
Table "WashingtonDC" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 2: thedish (£217 in chips)
Seat 6: __PWN__ (£266.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Maxlanger (£196.74 in chips)
Seat 8: DrJiggsy (£190 in chips)
__PWN__: posts small blind £1
Maxlanger: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to __PWN__ [5s 7d]
DrJiggsy: folds
thedish: folds
__PWN__: calls £1
Maxlanger: checks
----- FLOP ----- [6c 4h 4d]
__PWN__: bets £4
Maxlanger: calls £4
----- TURN ----- [6c 4h 4d][Js]
__PWN__: checks
Maxlanger: checks
----- RIVER ----- [6c 4h 4d Js][8c]
__PWN__: checks
Maxlanger: bets £12
__PWN__: raises to £30
Maxlanger: raises to £190.74 and is all-in
__PWN__:...........??????????????????????????????? ????????
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Old 19-09-2006, 17:32
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

I dont care.. Its not my money.. So just call...

Nahh serius.. With him all in earlier with your small raise, is bad play imo.. No matter what he had..
This hand.. I think he want the pot.. You bet small on the flop = no hand...
2 check.. problably no hand
then he raises small.. I think he have 6x

GO FOR IT!!
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Old 19-09-2006, 17:54
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

It's very hard to say mate. I was initially thinking he slow played trip 4's. Whether or not he's also made a full house is beyond me.

I'd be folding there. I don't think he can re-raise there with anything smaller than a full house because you like your hand.
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Old 19-09-2006, 18:12
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

I reckon hes full of it, I would call. I reckon hes got the 4 at best but thats it and hes an IDIOOOOOT

Btw Cains what are you talking about here

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You bet small on the flop = no hand
Jez bet the pot so?
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Old 19-09-2006, 18:16
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

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I'd be folding there. I don't think he can re-raise there with anything smaller than a full house because you like your hand.
With a decent player I totally agree Pistol. But ive found out all I need to know when he pushed 200 into that 20 pot that hes a numpty and I dont think he has it at all
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Old 19-09-2006, 18:25
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

Problem with these numpties is they'll push all in to a 20 pot with nothing and then push all in to a 20 pot with the bollox.
Still you can't just fold all day long to him and I would be very tempted to call that. It'd be pretty sick if he had something like 88 or 46
Still a pretty likely hand is a 4 with a decent kicker or even nothing at all.
I'd be tempted to call this numpty.
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Old 19-09-2006, 18:58
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

I am calling as well for the reasons stated above but I have an issue with this poll.

I selected call but I also like boobies. Now I feel I may be giving the impression that I dont like boobies as I selected call. I felt it was a more relevant reply to the topic but it still upset me a bit. So...just so you know, I like boobies as much as I would call here
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Old 19-09-2006, 19:35
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

I concur
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Old 19-09-2006, 19:48
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

As a wild stab in the dark I am going to put him on JJ or at least Jx and he thinks his two pair is good.

I base that more on the other thread where the advice is poor/average players tend to slow play big hands so he calls the flop with an overpair and checks his full house on the turn.

So the answer is fold. (and I like boobies as well) There will be a better oppurtunity soon
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Old 19-09-2006, 21:54
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

To be fair he probably has 57 as well.
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Old 20-09-2006, 06:46
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

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Btw Cains what are you talking about here


Jez bet the pot so?
Just used to him playing 2/4 or 3/6 then 4 is a small bet.. Is that excuse worth anything..??
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

Tricky situation especially as you have him noted as very aggressive. He checked his hand on the big blind so i cant see him having JJ or 88 as if hes aggressive would most likely have raised. The fact that he played it passively all the way through though makes me think he might have hit the flop pretty big and been scared to bet. From the big blind he could easily have 64, J4 or 84 and maybe even 66. I'd say personally that if you call big all ins like this on a paired board it's unprofitable long term so i'd let him have it. If he continues to make overbets of the pot you can always wait until you've got the nuts to trap him.
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Old 21-09-2006, 09:11
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

im with the majority and im calling ..... i just cant see the full house so i hope you called jezza so you can tell us all what he flipped over btw i also like boobies but i also like a nice pert bottom which you unforgivably neglected to include in the poll
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Old 22-09-2006, 18:28
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

Well this was a very tough decision. When he flat called the flop and checked the turn I put him on a slowplay, which in this case is probably a 4. Hence I went for the check-raise on the river. However when he comes back with the ridiculous overbet all in I have to worry about my hand. 9/10 times in this situation if you call you will see a full house. Any decent player who 3 bets all in on a paired board showing a straight/flush will almost always have the FH, ESPECIALLY if it is a huge overbet to the size of the pot. The check on the turn and flat call on the flop also adds weight to this thinking. I agree with Jaysym in that if you called this bet from every player your straight would be quite a major long term loser. However we can use a bit of opponent-dependant thinking here. Just a few hands ago (as I told you guys in the original post) he made another ridiculous overbet all in when he had minreraised preflop. I think it was approx 200 into 20 on a flop of 767. This was a real stupid move from him as only better hands are calling him and no worse ones are paying him off. It just smacked to me of someone who completely overvalued their hands, and in the classic case of the bad poker player, gave no thought to what the other player might have. For this reason alone I decided to call given that he could well be overvaluing his 4 and not see that I could well have a straight (what possible hands could I be raising with here!). I was not too enamoured with it as there is still a chance of a FH and he will show up with one a decent % of the time here but given that I know he overvalued hands I stomached it and called.....

Nothing could prepare me for what I saw next tho!

----- RIVER ----- [6c 4h 4d Js][8c]
__PWN__: checks
Maxlanger: bets £12
__PWN__: raises to £30
Maxlanger: raises to £190.74 and is all-in
__PWN__: calls £160.74
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Maxlanger: shows [As Ac] (Two Pairs, Aces and Fours, Jack high)
__PWN__: shows [5s 7d] (A Straight, Eight high)
__PWN__ collects £391.48 from Main pot

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Unfortunately he left after this hand. If there was a buddy list on crypto this would be insta-buddylist time . This is a classic case of someone overvaluing their hands. To everyone on here that plays tournaments and feels like an occasionally venture into the cash games sometimes I would have to warn you against this. DONT overvalue your 1 pair type hands unless you can put your opponent square on a draw (or the top pair if you hold an overpair) - this is death in cash games and the better players will eat you up.

Jez
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Old 22-09-2006, 18:35
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Re: Oh dear I river-checkraised - NOW WHAT

KNEW HE WAS FULL OF BS

Maxlangers chips are just like soup, just ~shhhllpp~ slurp em up

p.s what Jez says about usually seeing a FH here is really true, you need player info to make these kind of calls
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