Tri Nations Rugby Union

[traeth]

Starts on Saturday , note the early start

To win outright
Tri-Nations
New Zealand @1.91 paddies
South Africa @3.5 bet365
Australia @5 paddies

i believe finding the winner of the tri-nations is in selecting the team that can win away , i'm a fan of the All Blacks but their performances against the Northern Hemisphere sides have been mistake ridden , Australia have failed to impress against Ireland and a much weakend France , which they play again on Saturday. South Africa did the business against Wales and were the most efficient if the three in these warm up matches so far.

Any opinions out there before I risk my money on New Zealand or should I go for South Africa ?


Fixtures
Saturday, 05 July 2008
Tri-Nations Series
New Zealand v South Africa, 8:35

Saturday, 12 July 2008
Tri-Nations Series
New Zealand v South Africa, 8:35

Saturday, 19 July 2008
Tri-Nations Series
Australia v South Africa, 11:05

Saturday, 26 July 2008
Tri-Nations Series
Australia v New Zealand, 11:05

Saturday, 02 August 2008
Tri-Nations Series
New Zealand v Australia, 8:35

Saturday, 16 August 2008
Tri-Nations Series
South Africa v New Zealand, 14:05

Saturday, 23 August 2008
Tri-Nations Series
South Africa v Australia, 14:05

[traeth]

New Zealand v South Africa
Odds from Sportingbet , first book out , no handicap yet
New Zealand 1.444
Draw 15.00
South Africa

[redroar]

SA were hardly awe inspiring in the second welsh test nor against the italians but they have an excellent squad. NZ have the first two games at home so have a big advantage.

Cant see any great risk in backing NZ(no great value either though).

[Pie-chucker]

Agree with Red. It's the Kiwi 2 out of 3 v SA in NZ that is the big clincher. Also can't see the tournie result value.

On Saturday, might be worth taking SA on the handicap if around +10 to 12.

No McCaw for Blacks.

[traeth]

these odds from bet365 , handicap not that high pie , i accidentaly missed a few fixtures on my initial post , sorry for any confusion.
i still think that the All Blacks will win but as you say value is poor , those two openers at home is a great benefit to them

Hcap With Tie
New Zealand -6.0 1.90 Bet
Hcap Tie - South Africa +6.0 17.00 Bet
South Africa +6.0 1.90 Bet

Match Result
New Zealand 1.44 Bet
Tie 21.00 Bet
South Africa 2.80 Bet


Each team will play six fixtures during the 2008 Tri Nations Championship, three at home and the other three will be away, playing each team three times.

Sat 5th Jul - New Zealand v South Africa
Sat 12th Jul - New Zealand v South Africa
Sat 19th Jul - Australia v South Africa
Sat 26th Jul - Australia v New Zealand
Sat 2nd Aug - New Zealand v Australia
Sat 16th Aug - South Africa v New Zealand
Sat 23rd Aug - South Africa v Australia
Sat 30th Aug - South Africa v Australia
Sat 13th Sep - Australia v New Zealand

[redroar]

bloody bookies -6 is a shite of a handicap. If Nz play well they should win by 12+ if they continue as is they may only scrape a win. No bet for me at those prices.

[Pie-chucker]

Yeah, bugger it. That 6 call has slammed my wallet shut. i could see myself siding with NZ at that 'cap and spending the whole game swearing at the Kiwis coughing up line-out ball yet scraping home, just.

Aus -20 is up. ELVs come into play in Brisbane and France might struggle to cope. Aus by 21 last week; could be more on Saturday.

[Pie-chucker]

NSW TAB have New Zealand by 1-12 points up at 2.75.

It's hardly the road to riches, but it should oblige.

[redroar]

New Zealand: Mils Muliaina; Sitiveni Sivivatu, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Rudi Wulf; Daniel Carter, Andy Ellis; Tony Woodcock, Andrew Hore, Greg Somerville, Brad Thorn, Ali Williams, Adam Thomson, Rodney So'oialo (capt), Jerome Kaino.
Replacements: Keven Mealamu, Neemia Tialata, Anthony Boric, Sione Lauaki, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Donald, Leon MacDonald. South Africa: Conrad Jantjes; Odwa Ndungane, Adrian Jacobs, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana; Butch James, Ricky Januarie; Gurthro Steenkamp, John Smit (capt), CJ van der Linde, Bakkies Botha, Victor Matfield, Schalk Burger, Juan Smith, Joe van Niekerk.
Replacements: Bismarck du Plessis, Brian Mujati, Andries Bekker, Luke Watson, Bolla Conradie, Francois Steyn, Percy Montgomery.

NZ have a definite advantage in the backs but the Boks look awesome from 4-8. Have'nt seen anything from the summer tests to suggest the Boks can keep within 9 of NZ or that DeVilliers is an international standard coach(yet).

[traeth]

i gather that the weather prediction is cold and windy for Wellington
This should benefit the All Blacks . I think it will be very close for the first 60 minutes and that New Zealand will take advantage of the gaps in the S.A. defence in the final 20 minutes .With the high winds predicted I can see the All Blacks testing the S.A. wingers a nd fullback with some high balls
South Africa have not beaten the All Blacks in New Zealand since 1998.

I have gone on the New Zealand -6 @ 1.91

I'm also considering South Africa/New Zealand ht/ft @7

[Snodser]

I think the Boks +6 will do it.

Also on the Boks outright.







Also on the French +21

[Pie-chucker]

Good luck with those Snodser ! Cold windy and wet Wellington should see:

18pts under 41.5 total pts NZ-SA @ 5/6

10pts NZ 1-12pts @ 2.75

The NSW TAB offer a huge price on something that is a live possibility in a low scoring game...

2pts HT/FT South Africa/Draw @ 66-1

Rain in Brisbane but Aus should run away with it v France.

3pts BUY Aus/Fra pts @ 20

[traeth]

New Zealand 19 v South Africa 8

South Africa couldn't score in the second half
Well done on those two main bets pie , was really close with the All Blacks within 5m of the line in the last 5 minutes, wind picked up towards the end.
Same again next week

[redroar]

NZ were impressive, SA headless in second half, ref was very biased, ELV's have done nothing to impress me so far.

[Pie-chucker]

Cheers, Traeth. Joy of punting. It gets you on the edge of the settee throwing down cans of beer with 5 mins to go, 5 metres to line to bugger the 1-12 victory margin.

Wet in Brisbane apparently and no TV feed up yet. But I'd think Aus by 27.