The N.T.P.F system aka sunbeds and sandals system

[keemanan]

This maybe premature , oooeer , but I'm looking into a nice system involving teams with nowt to play for.

Criterea:
1. teams with something to play for playing teams who cant be relegated , no chance of lay off/europe
2. Teams must be in top half of current form league (8 games)

Simple so lets prove/disprove the myth
League 1:

24 Mar 15:00 Cheltenham vs Leyton Orient 8/5
24 Mar 15:00 Swindon vs Southend 8/5
24 Mar 15:00 Walsall vs Crewe 4/6
24 Mar 17:45 Swansea vs Bristol Rovers 4/7

League 2:
24 Mar 15:00 Darlington vs Morecambe 4/6
24 Mar 15:00 Lincoln vs Hereford 5/4

That'll do for now , any more I may have missed are gratefully accepted

£10 singles

[ONEDUNME]

Love it Keem. Great idea.

Not sure why you've chosen just the top half of the form league as a criteria though. Unless you include them all, it's not going to prove/disprove the myth is it.

For example, logic would say that Mansfield will be scrapping like mad today to avoid relegation by picking up points against Bury who have nothing to play for but that won't be included in your system.

Good luck anyway

[keemanan]

Aye , point taken ODM , as it stands it looks like just a promotion/playoff v sunbed system but it does have the benefit of disallowing really shit teams .

It obviously doesn't disprove any myth , well maybe half of the myth, the half in form

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by keemanan

24 Mar 15:00 Cheltenham vs Leyton Orient 8/5
24 Mar 15:00 Swindon vs Southend 8/5
24 Mar 15:00 Walsall vs Crewe 4/6
24 Mar 17:45 Swansea vs Bristol Rovers 4/7

I'm confused Which teams are you backing, the ones with nothing to play for, or the ones with something at stake? I'm struggling to tell from the examples you've given above, and in any case, two of the games are situations where both teams have something at stake. Walsall v Crewe have both got something to play for (Walsall only 3pts off the play-offs, they're far from out of it, while Crewe are in a relegation battle), and the exact same applies to Cheltenham (relegation battle) v Orient (3pts off play-offs)

[keemanan]

Get off my back Hitler! Jesus I certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition

it's a work in progress RC and not at all a system I thought up on the crapper this morning and due to the euphoria didn;t think it through , no not at all!

It'll evolve and no doubt mutate but how dare you question me!
When I do start charging for my top tips dont expect a discount

[rcgills]

Jeez, you try to help a man out and what thanks do you get for it

[Bigkegman]

Originally Posted by keemanan

League 1:

24 Mar 15:00 Cheltenham vs Leyton Orient 8/5 (1-0)
24 Mar 15:00 Swindon vs Southend 8/5 (0-1)
24 Mar 15:00 Walsall vs Crewe 4/6 (1-1)
24 Mar 17:45 Swansea vs Bristol Rovers 4/7 (1-0)

League 2:
24 Mar 15:00 Darlington vs Morecambe 4/6 (2-2)
24 Mar 15:00 Lincoln vs Hereford 5/4 (2-1)

Excellent idea keem. I know the 1st (trial) week didn't go to well but I think you could put that down to it being Easter weekend (2 games in 2 days).

I think you'll get a better feeling for this after this weekend.

[ONEDUNME]

If you've got any money left.

[keemanan]

Cheers for doing the maths there keggers old bean , I'll get into the why's and wherefores tomorrow at work.
Oh I'll be back ODM , I'll be back alright and you sir will be smiling on the other side of your wee goatie!

[ONEDUNME]

[keemanan]

Originally Posted by rcgills

I'm confused Which teams are you backing, the ones with nothing to play for, or the ones with something at stake? I'm struggling to tell from the examples you've given above, and in any case, two of the games are situations where both teams have something at stake. Walsall v Crewe have both got something to play for (Walsall only 3pts off the play-offs, they're far from out of it, while Crewe are in a relegation battle), and the exact same applies to Cheltenham (relegation battle) v Orient (3pts off play-offs)

I deem neither Crewe nor Cheltenham to be involved in a relegation battle sir !

Round one to the NTPF teams then , maybe the jitters are getting to thses feeble bastids. Nevertheless I shall battle on.

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by keemanan

I deem neither Crewe nor Cheltenham to be involved in a relegation battle sir !

Ouch. Kick a man while he's down why don't you

I'd agree with you that they're probably safe now, but prior to Monday's games they were still in a relegation battle - Crewe were 4pts above the relegation zone and Cheltenham 5pts above, with 7 games still to go and Gillingham having a game in hand. I can guarantee you that if you'd asked Crewe or Cheltenham fans if they thought they were already safe you wouldn't have found too many people saying yes. In fact, seeing as Gillingham's game in hand is at home to Luton, if we were to win that the gap would be down to 2pts. Big "if", I know, but Crewe still won't be considering themselves safe, I don't think, and nor will Millwall (who Gills play in a couple of weeks time).

[keemanan]

ok ok ffs , like a dog with a bone you are .
I will admit , that one of my research staff overlooked the fact that 4 go down in League 1, he has since been let go and now lives in a box , happy?

All of which makes my results look better . So thanks for the pedant Gillsy

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by keemanan

I will admit , that one of my research staff overlooked the fact that 4 go down in League 1

Ah, there we go, that would explain it. You just can't get the staff these days, can you?

And there was me thinking you were just trying to annoy me by suggesting the Gills were dead and buried in that last relegation place

[keemanan]

Wow , Kent's finest amongst the dead men there Gillso, what happened to all that Bob Taylor cash we gave you

Anyroad , pick these apart you pedantic bastids, for ODM I have included teams not in great form . Also I have highlighted the teams striving for survival, please feel free to suggest any I may have missed

29 Mar 15:00 Sunderland vs West Ham 5/4 releg

28 Mar 19:45 Tranmere vs Swindon 8/11
29 Mar 15:00 Oldham vs Huddersfield EVS

29 Mar 15:00 Barnet vs Wrexham 11/4 Bottom
29 Mar 15:00 Chester vs Stockport 11/10
29 Mar 15:00 Dagenham & Redbridge vs Chesterfield 6/4 bad form
29 Mar 15:00 Darlington vs Bradford 8/11
29 Mar 15:00 Morecambe vs Rotherham 6/5 bad form
29 Mar 15:00 Peterborough vs Lincoln 8/15