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Scots to use video to beat cheats

Personally i think its not b4 time but i would prefer it to be during the game and the clock stopped like in Rugby league, it takes no more time to review than lining up a wall for a free kick and once players know its in place they will cut down on the shannanegans anyhow.

Or maybe give each team 3 shouts in agame to review a piece of the play if they think a decision is wrong, that way the reviews will only be for the most decisive ones...

Scottish referees will be able to use video evidence this season to punish cheating in football.
New Scottish Football Association chief executive Gordon Smith has launched a new scheme to clamp down on diving.

Referees will review match footage and, if they feel they have missed a player diving or feigning injury, they will punish them retrospectively.

The scheme will start as a pilot this weekend at the start of the new season and come into effect on 1 January.


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Old 02-08-2007, 00:55
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Re: Scots to use video to beat cheats

At least somethings being done about it and they will come down hard on any diving cnut. About time and hopefully we see some of these pathetic diving stop as its got really out of hand recently.

Hopefully other bodies follow suit.
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Re: Scots to use video to beat cheats

excellent idea , if theyre caught cheating instant 1 match ban .
i`d like match of the day to highlight all the dives done on that sat
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Re: Scots to use video to beat cheats

Not sure it's workable in many cases though. There are far too many occasions where it's impossible to tell conclusively whether someone has dived or not. All this will do is weed out the shite divers, but the ones who are actually good at it (not sure "good" is the right word here really) will still get away with it a lot of the time because you'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Two things I would like to see introduced though, which would help the problem a fair bit. Firstly, a return to the way things used to be years ago, when free kicks were only awarded for proper fouls. Not two players running along shoulder to shoulder before one of them just stops and throws his hands in the air claiming he was ever so slightly obstructed (if you're not sure what I'm on about there, just wait until Fernando Torres starts playing for Liverpool).

And secondly, if a player goes down injured, they should be treated on the pitch, with the game still going on around them. They do it in rugby (I think), why not football? It'd take away all the advantage of feigning injury, as it wouldn't be wasting any time, and your team would be down to 10 men in the mean time. Only potential problem would be that you'd probably see a sharp increase in the number of keepers feigning injury, as obviously you'd still have to stop the game for them.
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Not sure it's workable in many cases though. There are far too many occasions where it's impossible to tell conclusively whether someone has dived or not. All this will do is weed out the shite divers, but the ones who are actually good at it (not sure "good" is the right word here really) will still get away with it a lot of the time because you'll have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I think they will only be able to book them after the event if there is conclusive proof that they dived. Anything marginal has to be left alone. I think examples like the boy Gilardinos dive for Milan v Celtic in the CL last season (although he may have got booked for that but it was fucking outrageous) is the sort that if the ref misses and then picks up in the review should be punished.

One change I would like to see is less protection for goalies. They are treated like an endangered species nowadays, the goalmouth is like a protection zone for them. Football is a physical contact sport game, goalies should be included in that again.

One other thing that may be getting trialled up here, my mate plays Juniors and has had a couple of refs mention it pre-game in his friendlies, is holding and general all in wrestling at corners and free kicks round the box. Some of your Spanish and Italian defending at corners is like a rugby scrum. Refs have supposedly been told to clamp down on it. If it comes in worldwide get on the overs and buy the bookings index in any live Spanish/Italian game, goals and sendings off a plenty guaranteed.
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Re: Scots to use video to beat cheats

Some daft cunt from FIFA was on the radio last night saying they wouldnt sanction it. Looks like they are loathe to allow anything that would benefit the game or please the people that go to watch it.
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If it comes in worldwide get on the overs and buy the bookings index in any live Spanish/Italian game, goals and sendings off a plenty guaranteed.
Buying bookings in Spain I'd imagine can't be particularly profitable, even if they don't bring in that rule. Spanish refs are very card happy, it's not at all unusual to see double figures for the number of cards shown in a game, and we're not talking dirty games either, so the line is set quite high anyway. Think the bookies tended to set the bookings points line at around 70 points last season (with 10pts for a yellow and 25 for a red). Was a tricky one to call, as you'll get games that can clear that by a considerable margin, and then at other times it seems someone has a word with a ref and tells him to just take it easy.

I remember one game last year in the Segunda, I think there were something like 6 or 7 yellow cards and one red in the first half (pretty sure a manager also got sent off for protesting), virtually none of which would've got a booking in England (some of them probably wouldn't even have won a free kick, never mind a booking), and I can only assume someone from the FA must've said something to the ref at half-time, as he then came out and actually reffed quite sensibly for the second half, think there were only 2 more bookings.
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