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10-08-2007, 07:39
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Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
Racist twat.
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Fifa vice-president Jack Warner said he will battle to stop England hosting the 2018 World Cup.
His decision will be a blow to the Football Association, who were likely to plan a bid on the back of any change to the current selection procedures.
"If the World Cup were to go to Europe, I'm quite sure, with the English luck as it is, they won't get it," Warner told BBC World Service.
"There are moves to give it to England. I must fight that."
Warner, a member of the world football body's executive committee since 1983, added: "It will be Italy, Spain, or even France who will get the World Cup if it goes to Europe.
"Nobody in Europe likes England. England invented the sport but has never made any impact on world football."
FA chief executive Brian Barwick told BBC Radio Five Live he was "disappointed" by Warner's remarks.
"On Uefa, we are - alongside Germany - the most well-represented country in football across committees and working groups.
"I think frankly they are personal remarks," he added. "I think Fifa will distance themselves from them very quickly."
It is believed Fifa president Sepp Blatter is set to end the World Cup rotation policy when the executive committee meet later in the year.
Instead, the association are likely to approve a format that only precludes the continents that held the previous two World Cups from bidding again, which in 2018 would be Africa and South America.
Warner, president of Concacaf, added that he would battle to bring international football's premier tournament to his region, which covers North and Central America and the Caribbean.
"I really don't believe that we should just lay down and play dead to anyone who wants to take the World Cup from Concacaf," he said.
In July another Fifa executive committee member and former World Cup winner, German legend Franz Beckenbauer, offered his support to England hosting the 2018 World Cup.
He told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek: "There is no better country in Europe to host the World Cup in 2018. England is the favourite."
He added: "The most important thing is to end the rotation and bring the tournament back to Europe.
"The Premier League at the moment is the best league in Europe and the stadiums are outstanding.
"In my opinion, there is only one very serious candidate and it is England." BBC World Service will air the full interview with Jack Warner on World Football with Alan Green on Saturday 11 August and Saturday 18 August.
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10-08-2007, 07:53
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Re: Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
prick tbh
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10-08-2007, 07:54
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Re: Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
Seeing as Italy had it in 1990 and France in 1998 it'd be a joke if it was given to either of those 2 again so soon. Spain had it in 82, but I wouldn't argue if it was to go to them again, purely on a selfish level because I'm living over here and I'd rather it was held here than in England.
Stupid comments anyway from Warner, and I can't see he'd have much success in getting it to the CONCACAF region. USA had it in 94, and Mexico's already had it twice which should really rule them out when there are plenty of other places that haven't even had it once. No disrespect to the likes of Costa Rica, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica etc., but I'd suspect they're in no position to host a World Cup. So that would only really leave Canada as a realistic contender from CONCACAF, I'd guess.
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10-08-2007, 07:57
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Re: Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
I agree RC. I wouldnt mind Spain or Portugal, though I think with a few bungs here and a few bungs there - Russia could come into the equation.
There's no point in giving it to the Caribbean like you say, because they'd build 8 mammoth grounds to hold 50'000 plus, that would then be empty once the World Cup had left.
If Europe is your choice, England is the only sensible answer IMO.
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10-08-2007, 11:14
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Re: Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
Jack Warner is one of the most dishonest men in football and that’s saying something.
Fifa’s own audit found his family had profited to the tune of around a million quid on dishonest sales of WC tickets. He was publicly named and shamed and ordered to pay back the money of which I think only a fraction has been paid. How he is still in power is beyond me.
I heard there’s a new book about him coming out which will apparently name dates, places, people etc for various bungs and backhanders he has been involved in. I can’t for the life of me remember the name of it but I heard the author (ex one of the big British broadsheets) on the radio say that it had been with the publishing houses lawyers for over 6 months  .
The man’s a joke but football being what it is he’ll probably have his way.
I’ll be going to ffice:smarttags" />South Africa as I have connections in Durban and Cape Town but to be honest I think it will be badly organised, crime ridden and a general mess.
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The WC is so big now only a handful of European countries and a few of the big non European economic powerhouses could manage to host it. I’d say at a push maybe 15 countries should be seriously considered ever.
Good shout on Russia AFU. If they want it they will get it
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12-08-2007, 11:50
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Re: Fuck off Jack Warner you 'Orrible Cunt
Not normally a fan of Rod Liddle. Actually, thats an understatement. I cant stand the cockney twat. However, he's spot on here on the Times:
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What qualifications do you suppose you need to become a vice-president of Fifa? Obviously it helps if you are a morally filthy, corrupt autocrat, simultaneously loathed and feared in your homeland. But you also need to be able to connive; to ingratiate yourself with some of this planet’s less agreeable human beings � such as Sepp Blatter. A total and utter disregard for football would be useful and an extended family, for taking advantage of business “opportunities” that may arise, more useful still.
But you must surely also need a vague facility for diplomacy, what with all that horse-trading to be done. Don’t make too many enemies, try to keep everyone onside. You would think that might be the case.
One of the current vice-presidents of Fifa is Jack Warner, who hails from one of either Trinidad or Tobago � he is also the president of Concacaf, the organisation that looks after the footballing interests of the nations in North and Central America and the Caribbean.
I ought to point out straight away that Jack is not necessarily a morally filthy, corrupt autocrat who is loathed and feared in Trinidad & Tobago � that was just a job spec I was advancing above. Thought I ought to make that clear, before we proceed any further.
Mr Warner has recently divested himself of his views about England and its contribution to world football. He has pronounced himself determined to stop England winning the bid to host the 2018 World Cup and added the following: “Nobody in Europe likes England. England � who invented the sport � have never had any impact upon world football. England at no time has had the love and support of Europe. Europe considers England an irritant.” This is the supposedly disinterested vice-president of Fifa speaking, and Fifa has yet to dissociate itself from his views.
It’s an odd thing for Mr Warner to say. England have won the World Cup once and appeared in eight quarter-finals and two semi-finals since 1934. In the same period the entire region of which Jack is president has managed three quarter-final appearances � two of them courtesy of Mexico, playing at home, in 1970 and 1986.
Notwithstanding Concacaf’s dismal performance, its representation at the final stages has increased almost fourfold since Jack became president. We lucky punters now get to see the fantastically useless Trinidad & Tobago or Jamaica playing in the World Cup finals � rather than, say, Turkey or Russia, for which many thanks, Jack.
I’m not sure he is right about England inventing the sport, either � codified its rules, maybe, in our usual public school punctilious manner. Perhaps Mr Warner was just being generous in this regard.
I’ve been trying to work out the source of Mr Warner’s Anglophobia, which seems to extend beyond a mere wish to see a Concacaf nation host the 2018 tournament. Perhaps it has been occasioned by a certain doggedness on the part of some Englishmen � not from the FA, of course, who predictably couldn’t give a monkey’s � to investigate Mr Warner’s personal financial arrangements. Largely, it has to be said, journalists (and especially from the BBC’s Panorama team). But also accountants. Ernst & Young, the Fifa auditor, estimated that Mr Warner’s family had trousered at least $1m from reselling tickets for the 2006 World Cup in Germany.
It has been alleged that Mr Warner’s son � a ticket agent, natch � sold 5,400 tickets for games involving England and Italy and so on. Of course, faced with this evidence, Fifa was forced, much against its will, to “investigate” Jack Warner itself. It concluded that because it was his son who had sold the allocation of tickets, rather than Jack, then Jack couldn’t really be disciplined. Should the sins of the son be visited upon the father? No, of course not: Fifa must have concluded that it was a mere coincidence that the grossly unethical reselling of the Fifa ticket allocation happened to have been done by someone in Jack’s family. However, it issued Mr Warner a “stern” reprimand and reportedly fined his family nearly $1m.
In any other line of business, you might think it peculiar that a chap like Jack Warner � having been officially reprimanded and with his financial affairs held up to scrutiny � should be allowed to continue as a vice-president of the organisation. But that would be to forget, or dismiss, the fact that the president himself is Sepp Blatter, a man who has not been entirely free of allegations of corruption and bribery during his seemingly never-ending tenure.
The FA has reacted with a vague pique to Warner’s comments. Even the outgoing sports minister, Richard Caborn, indulgently chuckled to himself and said: “Well, that’s Jack.”
Yes, it is indeed Jack � and he should be attracting more than our mild opprobrium. Imagine for a moment if some Fifa bigwig pronounced that the Caribbean countries had always been useless at football, that nobody liked them and that he intended to do everything he could to stop them hosting a tournament. Can you imagine the furore that would result? He’d be out of a job and probably investigated for a hate crime.
But it was said about England, so we shrug our shoulders and think no more about it.
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