Dwain Chambers representing GB at the Olympics?

[trickrick]

Well, well..Dwain Chambers qualifies for the World Indoors, and who is not to say that he won't end up at the Olympics...?

Is it such a bad thing that someone that has admitted cheating in the past, can now prove that he can do it clean?

The guy has balls, for certain, and he seems determined to legally take on all in an attempt to compete - all the way up to the Olympics..

Is it such a bad thing that he could be represnting GB in the Olympics?

SHEFFIELD, England: Dwain Chambers won the 60-meter dash Sunday at a British qualification meet for the world indoor championships, but he could still be excluded from the team.

Chambers, who served a two-year ban for testing positive to the steroid involved in the BALCO doping scandal, won in 6.56 seconds at the British indoor championships.

The win should give Chambers one of the two places available for that event on the British team for the worlds in Valencia, Spain, from March 7-9.

"Hopefully I will have done enough to get to the worlds," Chambers said. "I'd like to believe my performance warrants that and I just hope the selectors do the right thing."

UK Athletics will meet Monday to decide on selection and could exclude Chambers on the basis of exceptional circumstances.

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Chambers is on his second comeback after ending a two-year ban in 2005 for testing positive for the steroid THG, or tetrahydrogestrinone.

Chambers ran Sunday after meeting a qualifying time last Saturday and overcoming objections by UK Athletics that he could not compete for Britain because he had not been drug tested since his ban ended two years ago.

UK Athletics backed down Tuesday after Chambers' lawyers threatened to apply for a court injunction to allow him to compete. Chambers said he never formally retired and UK Athletics had chosen to take him off their drug-testing register.

"The amount of pressure I was under, winning this was everything," Chambers said. "I just had to keep my cool.

"I just want to move on in my life. I just want to be happy and enjoy my running again. I want to use myself as an example that taking drugs is wrong."

UK Athletics chief executive Niels de Vos said its stance was not to single out Chambers, but to focus on the principles of the sport.

"One is the idea an established athlete coming back should have a minimum of 12 months' testing," De Vos said. "Secondly, it is very important any governing body should have the ability to select who it feels is best for the sport from both a performance and reputation point of view."

Chambers won his heat in 6.60 seconds and easily won his semifinal by the same time after three false starts. Harry Aikines Aryeetey — the 100 world junior champion in 2006 — was one of those disqualified.

Chambers was stripped of his personal and team results from January 2002 to August 2003 after testing positive on Aug. 1, 2003.

And after subsequently admitting he had been using THG 18 months before his positive test, the International Association of Athletics Federations also stripped him of results obtained during that period.

He was also required to pay back past winnings and appearance fees.

Chambers had briefly returned to athletics in 2006, competing in the European Championships in Goteborg, Sweden, where he was part of the victorious 4x100 relay team.

He then tried his hand at American football, before returning to the track last month.

Chambers is banned from running at the Olympics under a British Olympic Association rule that prevents athletes with a doping offense from competing. However, several athletes have successfully overturned that decision.

[rockshark]

wouldnt mind really if he has served his punishemnt and is good enough, anyway id drugs cheating really? if it gives you an unfair advantage? that argument is redundant imo, as other factors do too, money for example. I cant see the team from botswana getting a lot of pool time beacuse they cany afford it but the aussies pump millions into sports-is that fair? boo hoo get on with it let it be a free for all, maybe we could have bionic atheletes too? that would be cool.

anyway as I say wouldnt mind but chambers is a complete tool.

[Wittmann 44]

Drugs is cheating if you are the not everyone is using them. If everyone was on performance enhancing drugs then I would have no problem with Mr.Chambers.

The argument about Australia pumping millions into the sport as against (as an example) is a red herring IMO. This is an accident of geography and economics and not a deliberate attempt to illegally bend the current rules. It is like saying that but for an accident of geography Ireland and England would win ski medals. Some countries are wealthy, some aren’t. Some have traditions in certain sports and some don’t.
I agree Chambers is a complete turd as is that other bird who missed all the tests (and whose name escapes me). If either of them win medals will anyone really believe they were not getting chemical assistance?

I used love the track and field in the Olympics. I will probably watch the marathon and maybe the 1,500 metres and up but anything below that I won’t even bother turning on.

[all_funkt_up]

Originally Posted by trickrick

Is it such a bad thing that someone that has admitted cheating in the past, can now prove that he can do it clean?

Yes it is bad. As far as I remember, he didnt admit to cheating and hold his hands up - he was caught through random testing.

And as for 'doing it clean' - I dont think he should be allowed to compete again. He used banned drugs to build extra muscle, gain extra speed - how do we know that he isnt a better athlete as a result of it - even though he is now clean?

What are the long term effects? If you have build extra muscle through EPO or THG - does it ever 'go way' or does it stay with the athlete for ever?

How do we know he isnt gaining an ill gotten advantage from his historical drug use?

[Winrew]

Dwain Chambers has been included in Great Britain's squad for the next month's World Indoor Championships.
The sprinter, who was banned from athletics for two years after testing positive for the performance-enhancing drug THG, will run over 60m in Spain.

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Who said that cheats never prosper

Looks like they were painted into a corner...

"The committee was unanimous in its desire not to select Dwain," read the statement. "Taking him to the World Indoors deprives young, upwardly mobile committed athletes of this key development opportunity.

Sad day and another nail in the coffin of athletics ...

[Napoleon Solo]

[stereoman]

Today's Bettingzone Market News:

1245: Dwain Chambers is evens to take part in this year's Olympics, according to Ladbrokes.

And the sprinter, who won 60 metre silver at the World Indoor Championships on Friday, is 33/1 to claim gold at the Beijing games.

Ladbrokes spokesman, Nick Weinberg said: "Chambers' performance means that the speculation surrounding his future plans will not go away."

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Ladbrokes aren't putting 8/11 up for Dwain NOT to take part!

Frankly I think it should be a lot higher than 'evens' as the IOC aren't going to overturn their decision and let Dwain in.

[Hippy Dave]

Originally Posted by stereoman

Today's Bettingzone Market News:

1245: Dwain Chambers is evens to take part in this year's Olympics, according to Ladbrokes.

And the sprinter, who won 60 metre silver at the World Indoor Championships on Friday, is 33/1 to claim gold at the Beijing games.

Ladbrokes spokesman, Nick Weinberg said: "Chambers' performance means that the speculation surrounding his future plans will not go away."

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Ladbrokes aren't putting 8/11 up for Dwain NOT to take part!

Frankly I think it should be a lot higher than 'evens' as the IOC aren't going to overturn their decision and let Dwain in.

Nothing to do with the IOC - every other country in the world allows former drug cheats into the Olympics except GB - it's the BOA who won't allow it.

Personall I think if he takes it to court the BOA won't have a leg to stand on. I also hope he does compete.

If you committ a crime you serve your sentence and that's it. He hasn't committed any crime (and, unlike most, did not protest his innocence when he was caught), yet is being treated appallingly.

Remember this is actually his 2nd comeback from his drugs ban (with the spell in the now defunct NFL Europe in between) and no-one said a thing the first time round.

[GaNgStA kEeKs]

Originally Posted by Hippy Dave

If you committ a crime you serve your sentence and that's it. He hasn't committed any crime (and, unlike most, did not protest his innocence when he was caught), yet is being treated appallingly.

Remember this is actually his 2nd comeback from his drugs ban (with the spell in the now defunct NFL Europe in between) and no-one said a thing the first time round.

Agree fully here.

I hope the cnut goes and wins the gold medal to shut all the doubters up!

[Winrew]

Controversial sprinter Dwain Chambers is to visit Super League club Castleford to discuss a possible career in rugby league. Cas have called a press conference for Monday morning, although Chambers' spokesman Damion Silk says he is yet to make a commitment to the club.

[slick]

Suppose it make sort of sense as he spent a few months last yr playing American Football because nobody loves him, seems an odd age though to tackle a sport like RL unless he's a masachist maybe.

[pistol984]

Originally Posted by Kiko

I hope the cnut goes and wins the gold medal to shut all the doubters up!

Then does a Maradonna esque charge to the camera with drugged up eyes. Imagine if he won then failed a drugs test? That would be hilarious!!

I say let him race just to drum up interest in the event.

[stereoman]

Yesterday evening's Bettingzone Market News:

2015: Dwain Chambers is 4/7 from evens to win the 100metres at the Olympic trials in Birmingham after easing his way into Saturday's semi-finals.

The Belgrave Harrier, who clocked 10.14 in the first heat, is 1/5 from 1/4, for a top-two finish which in theory would send him to Beijing.

Ladbrokes spokesman, Nick Weinberg, said: "Chambers is clearly the field's class act. It'll be a major surprise if he fails to bag either gold or silver in Birmingham."

Chambers is 100/1 to win Gold and 16/1 to medal at this summer's Olympics.

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He looks good enough to win it what with Dwain clocking 10.14s whilst his closest rivals are clocking 10.31s (Simeon Williamson) and 10.33s (Craig Pickering).

I don't see any odds at Ladbrokes' site though.

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[stereoman]

Today's Bettingzone Market News:

1400: Ladbrokes have cut the price about Dwain Chambers medaling at this summer's Olympics from 16/1 to 14/1 following a run of money.

The Harrow-based firm offer 100/1 that he claims Gold after the controversial sprinter won yesterday's Beijing trials in Birmingham.

Ladbrokes spokesman, Nick Weinberg, said: "We've seen enough support for Chambers to shorten his price. His previous misdemeanours are not putting off punters."

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I doubt he can get a medal if he manages to win back to race at the Olympics on Wednesday. He clocked 10.00s exactly when winning the British qualification heat yesterday and he'll have to go some and improve to barge past the trio of Bolt, Gay and Powell if he gets to the final.

[slick]

I doubt very much he'll get a medal too Stereoman if he's allowed to go, he did look good at the trials over the weekend but as you mention it will take a vast improvement to get past Bolt and co unless he has something up his sleeve

No matter what he does from now on he'll be on a loser now he has been stained.