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Petition up to nearly 7,300. Boys at TAMB keeping the thread alive and hopefully passing it on.

Wonder if there will be any further reaction from the BBC if it hits 10,000.
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Interesting piece from Peter Evo from redandwhitekop. Some people are of the opinion that the matter should be dropped and that further protest does no good. Evo doesnt agree, needless to say....

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Let's just let Mackenzie say what the fuck he wants when he wants. Let's all just forget what happened and what was said in the aftermath of 15th April '89. Let's all just fuckin move on. Let's stop this silly boycott of the Sun. Let's stop wearing fuckin silly red on white stickers and black on yellow stickers. Let's stop caring. Let's stop giving a fuck. It's all a waste of time anyway isn't it? Let's stop banging on about Hillsborough this and boycott fuckin that. Let's get Kelvin Mackenzie on our TV screens more and more. Let's get advertising for the Sun round the perimeter of Anfield. Let's get all the money this would bring in to the club. It might just buy a shit Brazilian full back or a waste of fuckin space Spanish winger. Oh yeah we've got the first and had the second haven't we? Let's stop burning copies of the Sun as twats masquerading as Liverpool supporters read it and say "it was all they had left" or "I didn't know." Not fair that is it? Let's just EDUCATE them? Educate? Why? Let's just go back to not giving a fuck. Let's stop singing songs about justice. Justice for who? Spoils the end of LUMC anyway doesn't it? Cos everybody knows all the right words to it anyway don't they? Let's stop going to the Eternal Flame before matches and standing thinking about things. Let's stop doing that mad walk from the HJC shop to the Eternal Flame every 15th April. Let's stop giving a fuck about SURVIVORS of Hillsborough. What are they fuckin moaning about? They're alive aren't they? HJC anyway? Only there to seek vengeance and line their own pockets anyway aren't they? Let's stop thinking about a young man placed in a mortuary, pronounced dead and came round from his unconscious state with dead bodies all around him. Let's stop thinking about how that now middle aged man's brain is fuckin scrambled. Let's stop thinking about how people have killed themselves cos they couldn't cope with Hillsborough. Let's stop thinking about a lad in a wheelchair who is now totally fucked after being in the pen of death at Hillsborough. Let's stop thinking and banging on about people who still, 17 fuckin years later, can't fuckin sleep properly at night cos they have fuckin nightmares about what they went through in that pen. Why, some people even write fuckin poetry about it! Let's stop feeling fuckin guilty cos we were in that fuckin pen and did horrible fuckin things to fight to save our lives. Let's stop thinking about how we couldn't really face our mates on the minibus on the way home from Hillsborough on 15th April 1989 cos we knew what we'd fuckin done. Let's stop fuckin thinking about how a young ten year old lad might now have been a 27 year old man in the prime of his life if we hadn't pushed him out of the fuckin way so we could breathe some of that Sheffield air. Let's stop thinking about and banging on about a young lad who was pronounced dead at 15.06 on 15th April 1989 but was actually, with evidence to back it up, still alive after that but wasn't saved because nobody got to him in time. Let's stop thinking about that lad's mother whose life has been blighted and has trawled the courts of Europe looking for some kind of justice for her son. Let's stop thinking we're a unique set of fans who care passionately about the most historic thing that's ever happened in the history of our historic club. Let's just bring our silly hats and our silly chants and instead of banging on about Hillsborough, justice, boycotts, Mackenzie and The Sun talk about how good Soccer AM is and how those Liverpool fans who we're on it once were dead cool. Let's stop having young lads who will, even though some of them weren't even born in 1989, continue to try to uphold all that is great and good about Liverpool FC. Let's stop shouting mad chants of justice at away grounds when we're winning 4-0 and instead wave our arms above our heads and from side to side and chant that dead good "Easy Easy" thing. Let's all just fuckin give up and go and watch a match on Stanley Park instead. Let's stop banging on about how the then Captain of our club was walking up and down Priory Road doing an advert for the Sun during the 98 World Cup. Let's stop banging on about how our present captain sold his story and a bit of his soul to the Sunday Sun aka News Of The World. What does it matter? They're only fuckin NEWSpapers anyway aren't they? You'll be wrapping your chips or wiping your arse with it next week anyway. Only fuckin stories aren't they? Don't really mean anything do they? Lies? We all tell fuckin lies don't we? So what this Mackenzie bloke authorised a story telling lies. So fuckin what! Only a story isn't it? Fuckin ages ago wasn't it? Who gives a fuck? Does anybody give a fuck? What? You're botherd that this Mackenzie bloke has said that when he said he was sorry for the Sun's lies in 1989 that he wasn't really sorry because it WAS the truth? Are you all fuckin mad? What? You mean young lads are arsed making banners with sheets and spray paint? Why aren't they out shaggin' or in the boozer? Is there something fuckin wrong with them? And what? They get a cob on when somebody, whoever that somebody is, tells them to take their banner down? Are they fuckin mental or what? When I was a young lad blah blah! I'm making a banner:
LET'S STOP GIVING A FUCK.
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Old 13-12-2006, 09:22
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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

I thought I would take the liberty to ammend Mr MacKenzie's wikipedia profile so that it includes this tasteful episode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Mackenzie

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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

The petition got a mention in yesterday's Guardian as well in the sports letters section.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/fiver

FIVER LETTERS

"A Liverpool supporters' forum has organised an online petition to remove former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie from the BBC's Christmas radio schedule. At No 3,454, one of the signatories is Metallica guitarist Kirk Hammett. A case of 'I dub thee Unforgiven'?" - Daniel Andrews.
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I have placed my order for my new banner today. Should be ready for the Watford game and deffo ready for the televised Cup game v Arsenal.

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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

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one of the signatories is Metallica guitarist Kirk Hammett
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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

The petition has been sent to the BBC with 8300 sigs on it. We had to have a cut off point so that we could send it to them in good time. Been sent to Bob Shennan, 5-Live's controller.

I have escalated my complaint with them and taken it to the next level. Plus I have a banner to hold up at the arsenal game.

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All credit to George Galloway. Not only did he sign the petition (number 89xx) but he has put a link to the campaign on his website. One of his researchers has written an article on it for the site.

He is also mentioning the campaign and petition on his next newsletter to the subscribers. Class act. And if that wasnt enough, he is interviewing Nick tonight on his radio show. George has allocated time in his show for a debate and a phone in on the subject. Fucking fantastic. The guy is an absolute legend.

We are so lucky to have him behind us on this. Like him or loathe him, he has principles and gets stuck into issues that he cares about. Not like half the faggot politicians that refused to sign the petition or get involved. Fannies....

Well done Mr Galloway. Tune in to TalkSport tonight after 9pm for the phone in....
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Well, the show was broadcast and in the main the debate has done 'the cause' the world of good. 500 sigs in 2 hours late on Sunday night is absolutely legendary. Superb, it really is. For anyone that missed it, they can listen again here by downloading the show from George's site.

The fight continues as I found out today Granada are making a program with him to be shown next year. A sort of Gordon Ramsey program with KMac sorting out failing regional newspapers. Scumbag. They are next now...

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Over the 10'000 mark now boys and girls. National radio coverage thanks to Mr Galloway AND the protest continues to pick up speed. We have banners planned for this (and every) Liverpool game until the big one, 6th January against Arsenal.

The BBC have taken us for mugs and I am going to enjoy greatly, showing them up on Live TV.

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Are there any plans for any kind of a phone-in on this show they've given him? I'd guess not, but if there are you may be better off letting him get on air so that a few people can have a shot at him.
This was discussed on George Galloway's talkSPORT show last night. You can download it here http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.p...tenlatest.html The debate starts after the 9 o'clock news (roughly 1 hour into the show).
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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

I have sent an email today to Jenny Abramsky - the boss of BBC radio - and copied in the controller of 5-Liver (Bob Shennan)

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Good Afternoon,

No doubt you are both aware of the growing discontent surrounding Kelvin MacKenzie and Radio 5 Live. You will have seen the emails or at least heard of the volume of complaints your organisation has received.

I think the attitude of the BBC on this matter, in short, stinks.

If someone's views offend and upset a large number of people, to brush them aside is completely unacceptable. Ms Abramsky, you say that Kelvin is a "very controversial figure, whose views are not always popular". I would ask you to visit our petition and then make your mind up as to whether Mr MacKenzie is controversial, or loathed.

http://www.petitiononline.com/rawk1/petition.html

I think his appointment demonstrated how out of touch with public opinion the corporation has become. It is not the job of the BBC to sink to the sort of gutter press level favoured by this gentleman. He is a liar and has been responsible for some terrible stories in his time.

If I might refresh your memory:

1) the 1987 Libel case (Elton John vs the Sun) which centered around macKenzie's false allegations that Sir Elton had used underage prostitutes - the Sun paid £1'000'00 in damages.
2) The Sun also fabricated a story that alleged a psychiatrist had declared Tony Benn "insane".
3) The Sun (under MacKenzie) was denounced as being "unacceptably racist" by the Press Council - following a story about Aboriginies

MacKenzie once said of his target audience at the Sun: " He's the bloke you see in the pub, a right old fascist, wants to send the wogs back, buy his poxy council house, he's afraid of the unions, afraid of the Russians, hates the queers and the weirdoes and drug dealers. He doesn't want to hear about that stuff (serious news)."

If that is the sort of listener you covert, Ms Abramsky, who am I to stand in your way?

Mr MacKenzie once said that the BBC was populated almost exclusively by "left wing turds". I beg to differ. On the evidence of the last 2 weeks, it appears that the BBC is now populated by some obstinate, stubborn "right wing turds".

Yours Sincerely,

Mike Rohan
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Re: Kelvin 'the cunt' MacKenzie

Is that your name? Mike Rohan? I hate that = you're AFU to me but now I'll think of you as Mike.... ARGHHHHHHHH

What are your feelings on Brian Clough mate? He said some pretty hard line stuff about Hillsborough too. To be honest I always thought Brian Clough was as honest as the day is long and I respected his views on everything.

Tell me why he was wrong?

(PS I'm not stirring - I'm interested).
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Is that your name? Mike Rohan? I hate that = you're AFU to me but now I'll think of you as Mike.... ARGHHHHHHHH

What are your feelings on Brian Clough mate? He said some pretty hard line stuff about Hillsborough too. To be honest I always thought Brian Clough was as honest as the day is long and I respected his views on everything.

Tell me why he was wrong?

(PS I'm not stirring - I'm interested).
Dont worry about it Gett1n - you can still call me AFU if you want.

Dont know much of Cloughie's opinions with regards to Hillsborough. What did he say? Havent been able to find anything on the internet. I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt. Afterall, he did buy Andrea Silenzi.
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here you go mike sorry afu



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