Worldwide Local Derbies

[kompressaur]

Ive always had an interest in local derbies due to the celtic/rangers rivalry since i wa a kid. All over the world there must be some right bitter rivalry. You think of any off-hand?

Just looking through here to remind myself
http://www.footballderbies.com/fans/index.php?id=2

[kompressaur]

Here's a good one. Its in Bulgaria's second biggest city of errr... iforget. Guess which one is the poor side though

[raven]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/h...00/2297495.stm

Boca and River really don't like each other....



Imagine the old brockville, with 10x the capacity and 10x worse safety, jam packed. Where every few fans are carrying flares and there's a fair chance they'll have a wee chib stored on their person as well.

Then double it.

I remember last year when they met in the Copa Lib and Tevez scored for Boca right near the end and got sent off for doing a mad 'chicken dance' in front of River's fans.

The boy must've had huge grapefruits of steel that day.

[PTDSEI]

The Belgrade derby for me, defo gonna head over to that before i kick the bucket.

PARTIZAN PARTIZAN!!

[ABWN]

stoke-vale aint to nice, last time they played (2 seasons ago) some peeps went aroung burslem shooting all the shops, right where i live. and a mass riot was organised for in the city centre. was not nice

[Beanie]

I remember just after we signed Pascal Nouma last season(Besiktas cult hero) we had hundreds of turkish fans flooding our boards. I got a bit interested, and managed to watch Besiktas v Fenerbahce on some dodgy online channel.

Not only was the game crazy(4-3 Besiktas - 3-2 up, keeper sent off + penalty having already made 3 subs - striker goes in - back to 3-3, striker preforms some heroics and Besiktas score after 6 mins of injury time) but we saw some clips from outside the ground with running battles involving just about everyone outside the stadium. Cant find any on the net tho

http://www.turkishsoccer.tv/goller/ Click link - and follow it to the Windows Media Player section. Then select Besiktas from the first drop down menu, and 28.Hafta from the second for the games goals.

Wouldn't mind heading to Turkey for a day with the nutcases of the Besiktas Carsi at some point during my life - thats on the to do list

And they might just have the longest banner in the world:

[PTDSEI]

Fuck! I can hear turkish commentary but can see nowt

[A.M.P]

IMO the ones in good old Blighty are bad enough...The ones between the two Bristol Clubs are very heated. Serveral years ago a group of City fans burned down one of the Rovers's stands and this became immoralised in song thereafter. There was the live riot on Sky Sports aswell.

We played in a friendly in the week. A police chopper was up throughtout and it kicked off outide the ground. On the pitch it was just as bad. A Rovers player went down from a tacke on the half way line. Ref played on and City's new signing Grant Smith decided to carry on and tonk the ball in off the bar from 20 yards. City won 1-0 leading to protests from the Rovers manager after. It was great to see that Smith was unrepentant afterwards...

Anyway, I've just read this excellent post off the City forum about the rivallry and I hope you don't mind me sharing it with you.....

AMP

Sorry, my inbred dislike of anything Gas-like is such that I would never even buy a BMW because I couldn't bear driving something with a blue and white quartered badge.

I will continue to stand up when the "If you hate the Gas" song is sung because...well...I do. This game and the atmosphere it creates depends on tribal rivalries. If we all sat there shouting "jolly well done" and clapping whenever our opponents put together a decent move and scored, or cheered when the half-time results were announced if the Gas or Cardiff were winning, what a dull place Ashton Gate would be.

If you just want to watch people play a sport at the most skilful level and appreciate that, you'd be better off going to Chelsea - or watching badminton or table tennis for that matter. But football is more than that. It's built on emotions which are, by their very definition, irrational. My love of City is pretty ridiculous really. I spend thousands a year following home and away a club that isn't very good by professional worldwide standards and has brought me a fair amount of misery and disappointment. Over the years I have foregone the opportunity to actually play sport because I wanted to watch others in red shirts play it instead. I've supported players that I've adored, and then booed simply because they've come back to the ground wearing a different coloured top. I've shouted and screamed obscenities at other presumably normally perfectly rational and polite people I would probably enjoy sharing a beer with in any other circumstances, just because they're on the other side of a fence. And they've done the same to me with equal glee. I've been p***ed on from above at grounds like Notts Forest, I've been charged by the police while trying to get out of a ground and minding my own business, I've been abused by a policeman on a train just because I was wearing a City shirt. I've taken a day off to travel to Northampton and support them in the play-offs against the Gas because I didn't want to see them going up, and celebrated with the Cobblers in unabounded joy as we watched the Rovers players sink tearfully to their knees in defeat. I've nearly been attacked by City fans while I was on a bus with a load of Wigan fans which was surrounded as we tried to get away from the JJB stadium to catch a train. I've paid handsomely for the privilege of all this. And I consider it money well spent because of the joy it's brought me along the way, however illogical and however anyone might suggest the money could be better spent.

And some of that delirious joy has come out of beating the Gas and watching them suffer. In fact I happen to know a few Gasheads whose own miserable existence as things have disintegrated at the Mammary Ground has been made just about bearable by revelling in our disastrous relegation a few years ago, and from our annual abortive attempt to hoist ourselves back up again. Part of the energy that you argue should be going into supporting City goes into disliking other clubs because that is all part of being partisan. And I am most definitely partisan. I do not sanction violence, I hate hooligans and think they are scum which our game needs to be rid of by whatever means. But I do not want our game Disney-fied and disinfected to take away the tribal element of 'them' and 'us' which makes football and its crowds unique.

So if it's all right with you, I will sing "If you hate the Gas stand up." And I'll mean it.

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