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Old 30-08-2005, 17:44
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

If Newcastle do get into the top 6, im sure there fans will be walking on water...ahem.
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Old 30-08-2005, 18:19
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Strange move this he must have been really worried about his world cup place.
I agree that he wont take flak @ Anfield which means he can return in the future, & I bet theres a clause that he can leave if Newcastle dont get into Europe, or Shearers not the next manager or something.

Can't quite get my head round this.......tbh
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Old 30-08-2005, 18:23
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

I think Newcastle will be almost unbeatable at home from now on.

Souness has taken a lot of stick, much of it over the top but he has done right in getting rid of the likes of Bellamy and Robert etc, team spirit counts for several goals a season and they would never have a good team spirit with those type players in the club.
I think the geordies have spent exremely well, most players need time to settle in and i think Emre, Luque, Parker, Owen are most definately better buys than what Sir Bobby bought to the club.

I'm not at all dissapointed that Owen didn't sign for us, i much prefer Cisse though i will always applaud Owen for the goals he scored for us.

Good luck to him, except for when he plays against us.
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Old 30-08-2005, 18:26
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Newcastle have acquired a decent Premiership standard player who also deserves to be in the England squad.

They have not bought a World class superstar though and once again Freddy Shepherd has gone for an image rather than 16 million pounds worth of real substance.

I am not a Liverpudlian but I do live on Merseyside. I am therefore in greater touch with what supporters felt about Michael Owen week in week out during his last couple of seasons with the Reds.

Michael Owen exploded onto the National and International scene as a teenager. One of his great attributes that did make him a world class player during his early years was his speed over short distances. It was also this quickness off the mark that was on occasions his achilles heel. It lead to his various injuries.

Owen gained a well deserved reputation but I question whether he was quite the same player during his latter two seasons at Anfield. Some would suggest that the reason for this was because he wasn't getting the same level of service.

Maybe so but did he really perform for England during the same period either.
I haven't carried out any real research to refresh my memory before putting forward my opinion but we can all still recall our greatest moment of triumph in recent years against Germany but can anyone tell me of a world class performance for the National side from Owen since.

He was a major disappointment during Euro 2004 although I accept that he was not the only one.

Real Madrid could be accused of not giving him a chance especially when you look at his record when he did get a sniff. But most of his starts were against inferior opposition in Cup games and his goals as a substitute came as an impact player when others were tiring.

Michael Owen will still score goals but I do not believe that he will transforn Newcastles fortunes in the way that you would expect a £16 million pound player to do so. On this occasion Rafa was right not to buy him back with that price tag.
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Newcastle have been the most over-rated team in the Premiership for the last 2 seasons, and backing them to level stakes in all league games would have cost you a small fortune as the bookies price them up on reputation rather than actual ability.

Buying Owen will ensure they are going to be even shorter odds than they usually are, so laying them in every game from now to the end of the season should reap nice rewards.

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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Why Liverpool didnt get Owen, from the Liverpool Echo

MICHAEL OWEN sat in his north Wales mansion desperately waiting for the Anfield cavalry to arrive yesterday.

Sadly for him, and thousands of Liverpool supporters desperate to see his return, the Reds were already in the process of retreating from the pursuit of his signature.

Instead, their former striker was dragged, kicking and screaming towards a clause-ridden Newcastle contract.

This was not supposed to be the final scene of the summer's most captivating transfer saga.

Even as Newcastle chairman Freddie Shepherd announced Owen's imminent arrival, the Geordies risked serious embarrassment.

With the St James' Park medical team due to arrive at his north Wales home to complete the formalities, Owen was still waiting for the call from the Anfield hierarchy.

When it came around 11am yesterday morning, the conversation between Owen and Rick Parry confirmed his fears. Liverpool had neither the cash, nor the will, to spend more than £12m to buy him back.

Real Madrid said that wasn't enough while Newcastle's £16m offer was on the table. For Liverpool to sign Owen, he had to publicly reject their offer and reiterate he'd only go to Anfield.

Sending an SOS to Anfield was fine, but without a white flag, surrendering any intention to join Newcastle, it was hopeless.

Sadly, this was a concession Owen felt he couldn't take without a definite assurance his ambition to join Liverpool would be realised.

Liverpool are stunned Owen opted for the Newcastle option given his doubts about the move.

They feel had he held his nerve and flatly rejected a switch North East, Madrid's stance may have softened over the next 24 hours.

When faced with a similar situation a week ago, Milan Baros publicly rebuffed any interest from Lyon and joined Aston Villa for a smaller fee.
Fernando Morientes took the same stance last January when in the wake of Liverpool interest, Newcastle offered more.

Liverpool wanted Owen to repeat Baros and Morientes' tactics. If the Geordies thought they were chasinga lost cause, they'd have to withdraw their bid.

The Reds could then continue negotiations with the Spanish giants in a stronger position. For Liverpool to sign Owen, it had to be a one horse race.

For Owen, the risk was too great. Time was running out. He was told by Madrid there was no prospect of a deal with Liverpool and if he didn't go to Newcastle, he'd be on the sidelines until January.

The shadow of the World Cup loomed large. It seems international ambition overrides a burning desire to return to Anfield and the next six months couldn't be sacrificed.

Owen was determined to maintain contact with Newcastle as a back-up option, but by courting their attention he created a fundamental flaw in Rafael Benitez's plan to get him.

After some horrendous advice, he was even pictured meeting Newcastle officials. Hardly the actions of a man trying to send a signal to Real Madrid he didn't fancy moving to St James' Park..

As Owen strolled around a Northumberland estate on Monday night, he was inadvertently knifing his and Liverpool ' s ambitions through the heart.

Having been set a morning deadline to make his decision, he returned to north Wales resigned to moving to Newcastle.

On Tuesday morning, he was having second thoughts and made a series of frantic phone calls to Anfield officials. Unlike the recent Steven Gerrard case, however, there was nothing Liverpool could do to reassure Owen a u-turn would definitely put him back in a red shirt.

They wanted him to reject Newcastle, but this would only trigger the beginning of more negotiating with Madrid.

Benitez's policy throughout the transfer was based partly on brinkmanship, bluff, and also a test of Owen's much publicised desperation to come home.

The Liverpool boss wasn't convinced by the private messages delivered via friends or journalists.

He demanded a statement from Owen, although when it arrived it hardly dripped with enthusiasm.

Owen's advisors elected to show their client as all things to all men, tellingly citing World Cup ambition above any fervent desire to join Liverpool.

Newcastle's £16m was then instantly made public, deflecting attention from Owen's understated 'come and get me plea' to his former employers.

Madrid refused to negotiate with Liverpool unless they matched Newcastle's offer. The loan deal Liverpool wanted was now out of the question.

As long as Owen rejected Newcastle, the Reds were in the driving seat.

Benitez and Parry met Owen on Monday. There was no clause in a Liverpool contract. Personal terms were not an issue. Difficult negotiations with Madrid were.

Owen was told to reject Newcastle. Instead, he and his advisor Tony Stephens headed north.

For all the sense of deflation at losing a player of Owen's calibre to Newcastle, few will argue the Reds should have matched such a ridiculous offer.

Indeed, the only winners in this saga are Madrid. They've earned 100 per cent profit on a player who wouldn't have played for them this year.

Liverpool have shown their status as European champions hasn't given them the financial muscle to outbid lowly Premiership rivals.

Owen has joined a club against his judgment, despite admitting a week ago he wouldn't do so.

As for Newcastle, they've agreed a strange contract which isn't exactly what it says on the label.

In a year's time, Owen can leave St James' Park for a fee somewhere in the region of what Liverpool were prepared to pay.

The Geordies are laughing now, but they might be celebrating the most expensive loan deal in football history.
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Good news for england,..the son is back on the isle!

I´m very happy about that for Michael!In Madrid he molder to much in reserve!
Look forward and calculate that newcastle have a new excellent forward and the team is going together with owen!


...Welcome back at home Michael!
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Re: Owen signs 4 year deal....

Arr I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. On the one hand I am disappointed he didnt return. Then again I think that he did force Benitez's hand last year and they were forced to sell him as he was approaching the last year of his contract.

It was taking the piss really to expect Liverpool to break the bank to bring back someone who wanted to leave last year. An increase of £8million for a player out of favour isnt justified. Newcastle are mugs for bidding the amount they did when Real were obviously desperate to sell. Not only would it have been embarrassing for Liverpool, it wouldnt have made financial sense.

Also, Liverpool would have had to increase his wages by about 40% on his previous contract. No doubt Gerrard would have got a raise out of it as well.

No, painful as it may be to see him as a magpie, I think it is the best thing for Liverpool. Plus when Newcastle go bankrupt in january - they will be begging Liverpool to take him off their hands to alleviate their crippling wage bill. Freddy Ridsdale, I hope you enjy life in the Championship....
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Newcastle have been the most over-rated team in the Premiership for the last 2 seasons, and backing them to level stakes in all league games would have cost you a small fortune as the bookies price them up on reputation rather than actual ability.

Buying Owen will ensure they are going to be even shorter odds than they usually are, so laying them in every game from now to the end of the season should reap nice rewards.

Easy money

Nice start today.....

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