Next England Manager?

[GaNgStA kEeKs]

Before we got the other thread clogged up i thought i would start a new one on who you feel should be the next manager of England.

I think we all agree that Sven will probably be gone after the World Cup finals regardless of how England do.

If they flop badly he will be sacked. If they didgo on to win it he would probably walk away knowing he was coming to the end of the road and wouldn't be able to take them further obviously.

Post by Zonker below on Mclaren who was suggested.

McClaren always gets talked about as the new England manager. Why? He is a clueless moron who has had a fortune to spend on transfer fees and wages, and he does worse than Bolton who spend much less for example? Yes he won the Carling Cup, but big deal, no one cares about. Middlesbrough's first major trophy yes, but suddenly he's some sort of football genius? Rubbish.

This is the bloke who signed Maccarone, Ricketts, Juninho and others all for big-money. Even the players who have done OK cost a lot of money. I can't think of many people I'd like in charge less than McClaren. Agreed that Sven is useless, but McClaren would be a disaster too

Couldn't agree anymore to be honest. A very over rated manager who has done nothing exceptional from what i have seen.

He has one of the most inconsistent sides around that will beat Arsenal at home one week and then go on to lose to Sunderland the following home game.

Off the top of my head the managers i have seen suggested to suceed Sven have been Martin O Neil, AlexFerguson and Sam Allardyce.

To be fair, i think England need to go back to having an English manager with some passion in himself although one exception to this would be Jose Mourinho.

You only need to look to Scotland to see what that has done for our national side.

Problem is though, how many top class managers is there going around that are English? Not many i can think of.

[Swooperman]

I have to agree with Chris that at some point in the future Stuart Pearce would be an ideal manager because he would bring passion to the team, but its far too early for him as he has to prove that his start isnt a flash in the pan.
Allardyce would bring passion as well I guess which would be good & he has the confidence & self-assurance that at least means he would get a decent crack at it before he gets worn down.
McLaren would not bring passion & is a highly over-rated manager, & unless he becomes a Dr.Hyde in the changing rooms he would be just as bad as an average foreign manager.
Curbishley ?? Probably the most successful English manager in recent times but only in its own context, but carries respect & would probably get a decent crack, but would he be able to organise superstars ?
In my mind the others are already failed managers, as in Bryan Robson etc

[zonker84]

I wouldn't automatically rule out a foreigner. I know people are saying that the next manager has to be English, and in an ideal world this would be the case.

Who has the necessary experience though? By this I mean managed at the highest level (international level or the Champions League over a long period) so they would not be out of their depth early on?

I think this rules out Big Sam, Curbishley, McClaren, Bruce, Pearce and all the rest. Which English manager has the necessary experience to make a good go of it? I know you could thrown someone in who is relatively untried, but it would be a risk. For example, Beckenbauer won the 1990 World Cup as a manager, with little previous managerial experience I believe.

If England do go for a foreign manager, I don't believe you can just pluck someone from overseas, who has no experience of English football and players, and may not even speak good English. When Eriksson was appointed, there was talk of Capello, Hitzfeld and others. I don't believe anyone like this would be a realistic option. You'd probably just end up with a similar sitution that you have now.

But, what about someone like Arsene Wenger? He has lived and worked in England since 1996, and has the respect of pretty much everyone. He has had limited resources at Arsenal and done extremely well. Working with all of the best players in the country, he could achieve a lot. I don't think the media and the fans would object too much to him, it would probably be similar with Jose Mourinho as well. Those would be the only two foreign options I think, anyone else would meet with a lot of resistance, and could even be worse than Eriksson. Wenger would be ideal I think, but he would be very unlikely to take it on if offered it. Same with Mourinho.

I worry we'll end up with McClaren almost by default because there's no one else who'll take it or is regarded as suitable

[christianu]

Couldnt care less.

They better not take Pearce in the future from us though

[crowie]

I think McClaren has got to this position of fav to replace SGE by virtue of a decent period as Fergie's assistant during a successful period at Man Utd. Suddenly he became the next big thing as Utd's success was all his and Fergie's doing. Funnily enough I remember Brian Kidd also having the same rep and look what happened to him.

McClaren has done better than Kidd in management but he's not exactly a roaring success and his transfer market skills (and therefore judgement of a players ability and potential) are certainly open to question.

The rest of the English potentials all have question marks over them of one sort or another. I think your looking for someone who had a successful playing career, possibly at the highest level, would command the respect of the players and has also had some decent achievements in his managerial career. None of the current English names fit that build.

Good point from Zonker regarding Wenger. While not having the playing career he certainly has done everything else a club level that would be required of a national manager. And he has been here long enough now that he is almost English. Wouldn't be the worst shout I have heard.

In truth I can't see any obvious candidate, maybe you should just renew Svens contract

[Swooperman]

I think the cupboard is that bare if they totally discount another foreigner, that a real strange one like Shearer as a figurehead with a respected number 2 could be a real dark horse. I've no idea who the number 2 would be & I would have laughed at this suggestion before Germany appointed Klinsmann

[crowie]

Holland also appointed Van Basten from nowhere (well he had been doing the coaching qualifications) and you could also say that Germany pulled Beckenbauer from no previous managerial experience as well.

Some times its more how the man in charge can motivate and have the respect of the players.

[zonker84]

That's a point Crowie when you really think about it. International players should be able to cope with the tactical side of the game whoever is in charge. Yes, you need to know a bit about the tactical side of things, but a former international player would do anyway. You don't need to know the managerial game inside out to be able to do the job, as long as you have the total respect and support of the players.

I still wouldn't appoint anyone like David Platt or Tony Adams though If it was up to me, I'd approach Wenger. If that came to nothing, you're struggling

[Swooperman]

The more I think about it the more I like it tbh....Shearer doesnt exactly abound with personality but the respect would certainly be there, & I reckon he could do enough to get them going in the dressing room. Make him the only full time job but give him a couple of number 2's like, say, Curbishley to help him, & possibly Pearce, but they woudnt have to give up their club jobs.
When you think of Pearce you think of commitment, & I think he'd need a few years doing as well as hes started to be considered full time on his own but he could certainly be used for motivation & coaching.
Bobby Robson as a number 2 ? Probably on a month to month contract at his age I suppose......

[GETT1NLOTS]

Martin O'Neil - class motivator and a decent tactician. The only blot on his copy book was losing the SPL last season from an almost invincible position.

Gus Hiddink - the best manager in the World in my opinion.

I wouldn't take Big Sam, McClaren or Curbishley to be honest. Pearce might be an option in the future but he's one of my heroes anyway so my judgement is clouded.

[ONEDUNME]

Hiddink gets my vote too but the FA are weak and will probably be pursuaded that an English bloke is the only option. Trouble is, none of them are good enough.