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So they need to sign at least three English players or they'll never be any good again. Is that it?

It's bollox.

I've got to go out now. Will be back later to check this thread as it's one of my pet fuckin hates people regurgitating absolute bollox that they hear on the radio or read in the paper without any thought at all. Where's Gettin when you need him - You're all FUCKIN SHEEP
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Old 15-02-2006, 11:32
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Erm not fuckin sheep, I mean erm you're all sheep.

Just thought I'd clear that up.
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English players playing an English style of play in England , yes you're completely correct as usual and as gett1n always is , more than enough of an excuse to go on and on about how incredibly stupid the whole of the planet always is!
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Van Persie can be brilliant , but at times he can be bloody infuriating , i thought this would be the season for him.
Wenger must really rate him as he normally ships bad boys out rather sharpish.
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In all seriousness (for once) Kiko - he has to leave. He is another player that is too good for the club. I rate him alongside Michael Owen. I sincerely hope he leaves for a decent price and goes on to enjoy as much success as Little Welsh Mickey
ok, for one - he is too good for the club???? What the hell does that mean??

Without Arsenal Thierry Henry would still be keepin the bench warm at Juve still as a winger - Wenger brought him here turned him into an international superstar, the fans have never ever been on his back, even when he openly admitted he was considering leaving the club, we never booed the man once! The same cannot be said for Man Utd fans ova the Rio situation!

But anyway Thierry has already came and expressed his desire to stay at the club, and stated that us as fans were one of the main reason. Why would he say this if he didnt want to stay!!!

And to even compare Micheal Owen to Thierry Henry make me physically sick - Owen shouldnt be allowed to breathe the same air as the frenchman.
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If the situation doesnt change, as in no more high profile players leave, then maybe he will....but as Ashley Cole is strongly rumoured to leave in the summer Henry at some point is going to look at the club & think 'is it worth it if theyre selling their best players' ??

I hope he stays as hes a fantastic player to watch, but Arsenal need to show him some short term ambition IMO. Its only one bad season tbf but its not going to be fixed overnight either
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Old 15-02-2006, 22:27
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Old 15-02-2006, 23:23
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ok, for one - he is too good for the club???? What the hell does that mean??
Henry is one of the world's best strikers. Arsenal are not one of the world's best clubs - they arent even one of England's best clubs.......

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Without Arsenal Thierry Henry would still be keepin the bench warm at Juve still as a winger - Wenger brought him here turned him into an international superstar, the fans have never ever been on his back, even when he openly admitted he was considering leaving the club, we never booed the man once! The same cannot be said for Man Utd fans ova the Rio situation!
You's cant afford to boo him. Arsenal would be nothing without him. United fans see that nothing is bigger than the club, for me Henry is now bigger than arsenal.

How bloody patronising is that too, Henry is nothing without Arsenal. My arse. His own talent and dedication was no doubt harnessed by Wenger - but its his talent. He has made himself good - not the other way round.
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And to even compare Micheal Owen to Thierry Henry make me physically sick - Owen shouldnt be allowed to breathe the same air as the frenchman


I like you brew, you're a truly passionate and irrational fan

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But anyway Thierry has already came and expressed his desire to stay at the club, and stated that us as fans were one of the main reason. Why would he say this if he didnt want to stay!!!
Sentiments mean fuck all until that contract is signed. Its there waiting for him but Terry is errr errr washing his hair until after the world cup
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Old 15-02-2006, 23:25
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In short, Arsenal dont have the resources to solve the situation. They cant afford to invest what is needed. The future is bleek! Ashburton grove without any Champions League football and no Henry - 20'000 on a wet Thursday night against Lokomotiv Minogue in the UEFA Cup here we come

What a way to crown your first season in the ground
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Old 15-02-2006, 23:35
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I'm an Arsenal fan, but they're getting it very very wrong, mainly with Wenger's signing policy and tactics.

They continually sign promising young players, when they are crying out for experienced players, especially in central defence and central midfield.

Senderos is the worst player to play for Arsenal in 10 years, errors galore. All you need to do in pump a long ball down the middle, have your striker brush him off the ball and score. Happened several times this season. Flamini will never be good enough, and Fabregas is too weak and thinks he is better than he is.

The recent signings are harder to judge, as I've not seen enough of Diaby to comment. Walcott won't be a factor for a couple of years at least, and Arsenal need the players now. Back in August when all the Michael Owen rumours were around, Wenger said he wouldn't be signing another striker, as it would block the opportunities of the current young players. Then he signs Adebayor in Janaury for £7m? A player who I have seen play in France, and I will be amazed if he is a success at Arsenal. Bad attitude and lazy, waste of money.

For the price of Adebayor and Hleb, they could've had Owen Hleb, another signing who fits in with Arsenal's tactics, but isn't what they need.

Arsenal just pass the ball for the sake of it without going anywhere. It may look good to have 60-70% possession every game, but not if you're losing and not going anywhere with it. This happens so often, they have no cutting edge, no threat, and need Henry to do it all on his own. This has been fine this season when teams come to defend at Highbury and let Arsenal put pressure on them. Teams that have a go and take the game to Arsenal and get stuck in, have success. This is why they have struggled away.

Wenger has been a massive success at Arsenal, but his tactics are flawed, and his obsession with signing only young players is meaning that Arsenal are lacking experience in crucial positions, which will continue to cost them. Arsenal pose no aerial threat in attack, and if play too narrow, just passing it side to side. If their clever flicks and one twos come off, but too often they don't.

Wenger needs to think more short-term at times. There's nothing wrong with signing a 30-year-old for example to boost the centre of their midfield, but then in January he signs players aged 21, 20 and 16. Walcott and Diaby may turn out to be very good, but that is not going to help Arsenal do better this season.

Perhaps a change of manager and new ideas might help, but that's not going to happen. Wenger has done superbly, but like Alex Ferguson, perhaps he has been there too long? Like Ferguson, there appear to be blatantly obvious flaws in the team that he is not correcting.

That said, the whole injury situation hasn't helped. To have 8 defenders out at once was very unfortunate
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Henry is one of the world's best strikers. Arsenal are not one of the world's best clubs - they arent even one of England's best clubs.......

Arsenal have not finished outside the top 2 for 10 years
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In short, Arsenal dont have the resources to solve the situation. They cant afford to invest what is needed. The future is bleek! Ashburton grove without any Champions League football and no Henry - 20'000 on a wet Thursday night against Lokomotiv Minogue in the UEFA Cup here we come

What a way to crown your first season in the ground

Arsenal have a 30,000 waiting list for season tickets, and their premium Club Level scheme is 90% sold out I believe. Ashburton Grove will generate more revenue than any other stadium in the world.

Looking at Arsenal's last accounts, I believe they had somewhere in the region of £100m cash to hand. Some of this is required to service debts, but if Wenger really wanted to spend £20m on a player any time soon, I am sure that this would be possible. The ground is being paid for by long-term low interest loans. The financial situation is a lot better than you claim, and you're basically talking rubbish AFU sorry
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Old 15-02-2006, 23:42
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Zonker - cracking post, summed up what I was thinking there.

I think selling Viera was a mistake. It will have cost them more than they earned through the sale if they fail to make the Champions League. Arsenal could do with a Hamann, who IMO does the simple things well. He knows his limits, gets the ball and passes it back or square. Simple play - Arsenal lack bite and over play a lot of the time. How many of the 'great' Arsenal youth team of the past 2 years will make it in the big time? 1 or 2 max?

Much is made of the superb youth set up, Quincy Owusu Ironside has exited stage left, I wonder how many will follow? Hleb and Walcott are great players, but to me they werent what Arsenal were crying out for this season.

I think Wenger was so intent on beating Chelsea to Walcott and was so determined to get him that his transfer was a symbol. It was a signal to the rest of the football world that Arsenal are not down and out and are a force. Mourinho inflated the price and played the perfect game, he called Arsene's hand and in turn El Frog blew his tranfer kitty on one youngster. Him and some stroppy so and so forward......

Walcott may be ace but how they cry out for a no nonsence shit house midfielder at the moment
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Well as Brewelly says and he makes a good point, he has seen Chelsea's spending power and the might of them last season so he seems to have adopted a plan for the future with all these young players brought in.

Big difference between now and there invincible days is Ljungberg and Pires who aint anyway near the form they were at, constant source of goals from midfield to aid Henry.
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Arsenal have a 30,000 waiting list for season tickets, and their premium Club Level scheme is 90% sold out I believe. Ashburton Grove will generate more revenue than any other stadium in the world.
come 2 years down the line, no silverware and no CL football, lets see who wants a £5 grand a year VIP Season ticket then eh!

30'000 is a vastly inflated number. a certain %age will have died, moved on, changed their mind or now cant afford it.

most of them are probably multiple aplications or touts applications....always the way with waiting lists......
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