Japanese Cup 12 April

[rcgills]

12 Apr-12:00	Cerezo Osaka v Nagoya Grampus Eight		2.25	3.25	2.75
12 Apr-12:00	JEF Utd Ichihara v Niigata		1.83	3.25	3.70
12 Apr-12:00	Kashima Antlers v Kawasaki-F		2.00	3.20	3.20
12 Apr-12:00	Oita v Kyoto Purple Sanga		2.00	3.20	3.20
12 Apr-12:00	Shimizu S-Pulse v Sanfrecce Hiroshima		2.00	3.20	3.20
12 Apr-12:00	Urawa Red Diamonds v Avispa Fukuoka		1.50	3.60	5.50
12 Apr-12:00	Ventforet Kofu v Jubilo Iwata		2.50	3.10	2.50
12 Apr-12:00	Yokohama F-Marinos v FC Tokyo		1.90	3.25	3.50

Odds from Bet365

[kompressaur]

why are these games on so late? where's Rashin? Does Japanese culture rule the world? who's prettier the japanese women or the chinese? See the answers to all these questions and more hopefully soon if Rashin's woman isnt insisting Rashin stays away from his blasted computer.

[Rashin]

These games are late to give the teams more time to recuperate from the weekend games.

Hmm Japs or Chinese, let's see some famous people.
Ayumi Hamasaki v Kelly Chen
vs

To me it's about the same, both has the same ancestors, only cultural difference.

I think Japanese men are all rite, or wait that guy's familiar...is that Arnold

[prinze]

Sure Arnold looks more chinese now ........ Hope he can provide us with some great tips in their league. Komp maybe u should persuade Arnnie to visit our forum.........am very sure he would like it

Book Closesfficeffice" />	Fixture	Hdp	Team 1	Team 2	Line	Over	Under
12 Apr ffice:smarttags" />11:00	Cerezo Osaka v Nagoya Grampus Eight	0,0.5	1.90	1.95	2.5	1.90	1.90
12 Apr 11:00	JEF Utd Ichihara v Niigata	0.5	1.85	2.00	2.5,3	1.80	2.00
12 Apr 11:00	Kashima Antlers v Kawasaki Frontale	0,0.5	1.85	2.00	2.5,3	1.80	2.00
12 Apr 11:00	Oita v Kyoto Purple Sanga	0,0.5	1.775	2.075	2.5,3	1.85	1.95
12 Apr 11:00	Shimizu S-Pulse v Sanfrecce Hiroshima	0.5	2.00	1.85	2.5,3	2.00	1.80
12 Apr 11:00	Urawa Red Diamonds v Avispa Fukuoka	1.5	1.85	2.00	3	1.90	1.90
12 Apr 11:00	Ventforet Kofu v Jubilo Iwata	0	2.05	1.80	2.5,3	2.10	1.70
12 Apr 11:00	Yokohama F-Marinos v FC Tokyo	0.5	1.85	2.00	2.5,3	2.00	1.80

Rashin whats your thought on the over 2.75 for the Kashima Game. Hope my Jap is right I got it from an on-line dictionary

[kompressaur]

Are these games still to come? I'd hate Arnie to come here. thinks he's smart with his one liners and his groping of women. whats an austrian with no brain cells doing being a myor of california? says a lot to me that does.

anyone any fancies?

[Rashin]

Originally Posted by prinze

Rashin

How did you know my chinese name is the last word on my chinese name.

But using it before Rashin-san sounds weird, I dont know if that was right or not.
I'll post them in about an hour, waiting for lineup first. It's the cup, so I am wary of teams resting their best players.

[Monty]

Rashin could you post your opinion about o/u 2.5 FOR ALL matches?
Or would be nice if you can just point 2 or 3 matches with LOWEST probability to past over 2.5.
thx in advance...and GL

[Rashin]

Urawa Reds v Avispa Fukuoka

FW Ono injured.
Even though Urawa's top of the league table and scoring goals freely. The coach decided it was fun to try out new stuffs and played a more defensive game. Alex Santos who used to play at the back and runs forward is moved into midfield and puts in Yamada who always stays at the back. It's true the defence improved, but the offence deproved. But still Urawa is still the team with the most quality, but quality without performance is nothing.

Avispa has always played well in all their games, and perhaps unlucky to not win any of them. They always fight in every game and could even beat Urawa in the last game. From the 3 promoted teams, Avispa is the most consistent and they should be able to avoid relegation with their performance.

FW Escudero should replace Ono in attack. Other than that I expect the same Urawa team that won at Fukuoka to start. However in that game it was clear Avispa has the capabilities to beat Urawa with the way Urawa currently plays. Avispa declared that they would like to get their first win of the season even though it's the cup game. A very bold declaration that deserved to be backed. Handicap of 1 1/4 is too much as I see a very hard game for Urawa and a draw is more probable or an Avispa upset. Urawa's 2-0 win over Tokyo in the first Cup game was a very lucky one with 3 goaline clearances, I dont believe that they will be lucky again here.

Avispa(+1 1/4) 4/10 2.265
Avispa 1/10 8.18

Odds moved further, I'll add more. Natural thing as Urawa is like Man Utd.
Avispa(+1 1/2) 2/10 2.075


Other games

Yokohama Marinos v FC Tokyo
Suprisingly Marinos with a weakened lineup, Magrao rested and Marques rested, Kubo on the bench. While FC Tokyo brought a full team.
FC Tokyo(+1/2) 3/10 2.00

Kashima Antlers v Kawasaki Frontale
Both teams with strongest current lineup, hard match to rate, I prefer to stay away.

Oita Trinita v Kyoto Purple Sanga
Both with around full teams with minor changes. Not sure why Alemao's on the bench for Kyoto. A probable Over, but maybe in livebetting.

JEF Ichihara v Albirex Niigata
Both teams playing the same players that played in the last Nabisco Cup, JEF has some advantage, but not worth a bet.

Shimizu S-Pulse v Sanfreece Hiroshima
Cho Jae Jin on the bench, about the same team that played in the last Cup game. Sato is fit for Sanfreece, but Dininho on the bench, maybe tactical stuffs. Not worth any bets.

Ventforet Kofu - Jubilo Iwata
Both teams with a little weakened lineup. But Jubilo's looks more decent to the weekend lineup. I think Jubilo should be able to get something, but odds arent good.

Cerezo Osaka v Nagoya Grampus
Nishizawa out of the gamefor Cerezo, and Grampus has a strange looking lineup, better stay away. It seems Grampus manager is trying new stuffs again.

Urawa Reds v Avispa Fukuoka
Urawa's lineup made me happy. Reserve keeper Yamagishi starts, first team defence, NO Santos, NO Washington, NO Ponte, NO Ono(expected). Current 1.5 handicap too much.

[Rashin]

Originally Posted by Monty

Rashin could you post your opinion about o/u 2.5 FOR ALL matches?
Or would be nice if you can just point 2 or 3 matches with LOWEST probability to past over 2.5.
thx in advance...and GL

Yokohama Marinos v FC Tokyo
Probably an Under with Magrao and Marques not playing, or unless Tokyo trashes Marinos...quite unlikely.

Kashima Antlers v Kawasaki Frontale
Both strong teams, I'll go with the Under as I can see Kashima keeping Frontale quiet.

Oita Trinita v Kyoto Purple Sanga
I'll go for the Over here, both team's defence is unstable recently.

JEF Ichihara v Albirex Niigata
Looks like a 2-1 game, I'll go with the Over, but perhaps the 3rd goal will come late.

Shimizu S-Pulse v Sanfreece Hiroshima
A boring game expected, maybe 0-0, I prefer Under.

Ventforet Kofu v Jubilo Iwata
Hardest match to rate, depends if the new Kofu strikers can score againts the experienced Jubilo defence. I'll go with the Over.

Cerezo Osaka v Nagoya Grampus
Tricky one, depends if the coach's tactics work out or not, probably and Under.

Urawa Reds v Avispa Fukuoka
Under...0-1.

[booboo]

Hi Rashin,

Very tempted with the under for Urawa match at 3 goals......

What do you think?


booboo

[Rashin]

Over/Under has always been a gamble for me so I like to stay away most of the time. For me one golden rule is to never bet on Under in Jleague no matter how confident I am. But I am hoping a 0-1 game...so Under is perhaps worth a bet.

[khimakss]

Standing
Points - Goal Diff - Team
so far...
Group A
3 | +2 | Urawa Reds
3 | +1 | Yokohama F Marinos
0 | -1 | Avispa Fukuoka
0 | -2 | FC Tokyo

Group B
3 | +3 | Kashima Antlers
3 | +1 | Kawasaki Frontale
0 | -1 | Kyoto Purple Sanga
0 | -3 | Oita Trinita

Group C
3 | +1 | Jef Chiba
1 | -0 | Albirex Niigata
1 | -0 | Shimizu S-Pulse
0 | -1 | Sanfrecce Hiroshima

Group D
4 | -0 | Jubilo Iwata
3 | +2 | Ventforet Kofu
3 | +1 | Cerezo Osaka
0 | -2 | Nagoya Grampus
0 | -1 | Omiya Ardija

[khimakss]

Agree on FC Tokyo pick. Yokohama will face gamba this weekend and they probably focus in that match.

[booboo]

Rashin...have to agree with you...under for J-league is like watching porn naked with a razor blade above your dick.......:P but i will follow the master for a risk....no risk no gain!!!!

gd luck!
booboo

[prinze]

Sorry Rashin, if it sounded awkward but it was supposed to mean Honorable Rashin san I think i will thus keep away from the O/U's and thus go for the 2 teams.:drums