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Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Campeonato Brasileiro Serie B

May 30 01:30 Avai v Barueri 1.70 3.25 4.50
May 30 01:30 CRB v Ponte Preta 2.37 3.25 2.60

Copa do Brasil

May 31 02:45 Fluminense v Figueirense 1.66 3.50 4.50

S. America - Supercup (1 match)


Jun 01 04:30 Pachuca v Internacional RS 1.66 3.50 4.50

Copa Libertadores

May 31 02:45 Gremio v Santos (Bra) 2.00 3.30 3.20
Jun 01 02:00 Cucuta Deportivo v Boca Juniors 2.60 3.25 2.30


Peru Apertura

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Old 29-05-2007, 11:37
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

i always favorite Boca but still wait for the team news . could mk me more confident
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Old 29-05-2007, 20:01
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Gremio v Santos
My favs to win the cup are Santos but in the h2h theres mostly home wins

08-10-06 Santos Gremio 1 : 0 1. Divisjon 2006
01-06-06 Gremio Santos 1 : 0 1. Divisjon 2006
05-12-04 Santos Gremio 5 : 1 1. Divisjon 2004
05-08-04 Gremio Santos 3 : 1 1. Divisjon 2004
07-12-03 Santos Gremio 2 : 2 1. Divisjon 2003
02-08-03 Gremio Santos 2 : 0 1. Divisjon 2003
05-12-02 Gremio Santos 1 : 0 Playoff 2002
01-12-02 Santos Gremio 3 : 0 Playoff 2002
14-09-02 Santos Gremio 2 : 0 1. Divisjon 2002
04-11-01 Santos Gremio 4 : 2 1. Divisjon 2001

Ide expect odds to drop on Gremio my guess a 1-0 final score..
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Old 30-05-2007, 09:18
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

As in the previous post, not many draws and no away win between the 2, the other important statistic is: Santos unbeaten so far in the competition..

Look at these odds:
1X2 2.10 3.25 3.00
AH -0.5 2.20 1.62
What is the meaning of the high draw odds? Santos is favorites but the odds sugguest the latter, the bookie would like us to buy Gremio.
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Old 30-05-2007, 14:05
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

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Glass Liberating | Union receives Saints in Semifinal of Liberators



MEDIOTIEMPO | Agencies
29 of May of 2007
  • Santos F.C eliminated America
- Time Follows in the middle the Glass Liberating
Tcheco Captain will possibly return to the titular alignment of Union when he receives to Saints this Wednesday in the away game by the Liberating semifinals of the Glass.
Tcheco, that has 12 goals this season, was between cottons by a muscular injury, but the medical examinations of Monday demonstrated that the mediocampista is available to play this Wednesday in Glad Porto.
However, the technical Hand Menezes will not be able to count on the containment steering wheel Lucas, who still does not recover of an injury. The ex- attacker of Milan, Loving, is suspended to receive a red card in the Quarterfinals.
Saints arrive at the encounter with their complete group.
The equipment of Vanderlei Luxembourg is invicto and has the best record in this Liberators, with 10 triumphs in 12 parties. Union gained five hardly.
Union advanced to the Semifinals when winning to Sporting Defender of Uruguay in a definition of penitentiaries, whereas Holy eliminated 2-1 a plagued Mexican America of substitutes.
Juniors mouth of Argentina and Sport Cúcuta of Colombia will dispute the other Semifinal as of Thursday.
Luxembourg gave rest him to its holders in the three first parties of the Brazilian championship, with a balance of a victory and two defeats.
“We are in the semifinals of the Liberators, that it is our priority”, it said the Chilean steering wheel of Saints, Claudius Maldonado. “The Brazilian championship is beginning, but the Liberators are in their decisive stages”.
Union lost its first duel in the Brazilian league and won both following.
Both Brazilian equipment looks for his third trophy of the Liberators. Saints crowned themselves in 1962 and 1963 of the hand of Pelé, whereas Union was Champion in 1983 and 1995.
Union does not arrive at the End from 1995, and Saints, with Robinho in their rows, lost the End of the 2003 before the Juniors Mouth de Carlos Tevez.
The return duel will dispute the 6 of June in the stage Vila Belmiro de Santos.
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Cheers all,
I been breaking my head all day with this match.. after i couldnt decide on the reault i tried to see whther there will be overs since Gremio will try to win their home leg with maximum goal advantage since away goals do not count in this competition, and Santos is not a team that defends, the overs are around 2.1 but i wouldnt risk it personaly and decided to avoid it all together..
Am looking forward to watch it though

edit: better luck in the euro quals maybe.. bol
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

About Gremio-Santos ,under is very probable in that game but odds are low
I fancy Gremio more than under.....

Cucuta-Boca
Best price for Cucuta@3.10 Bettson and price is going up ,i could go with them with small stakes, yes Boca is much better team but this is semifinal and everything is possible .....
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Gremio - Santos Had to stay up and watch this (was a first), electrifying atmosphere, Gremio seemed to own it, allmost the only team on the pitch, better refereeing than Champions league tbh, absolutly great stuff.
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

I follow the overs in Cucuta's games and until now they doing ok. you think tonight is a good bet too or you think is better to bet on both teams to score?Thanks mates.
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Cucuta has had 3 unders in its first matches of the group stages 2 nil to nil draws and a 1-1 draw
Only the last three matches of the group stages were overs .

It had 2 unders and 2 overs since it played in the final eight
Home matches 5-1 v Toluca, 2-0 v Nacional
Away matches 2-0 v Toluca, 2-2 v Nacional

Looked at the overs/unders in the semifinals since the 80's and most of the first leg encounters end-up unders.

I agree with Igor5 here, Cucuta home win Best of luck.

Not to say it wont be overs, but the only overs at this stage of the competition (before and after it was revamped) was with Sao Paolo and Santos and once with River plate.. (if i remember correctly)

Funny statistic is that Gremio won the Copa 12 years ago and 12 years before that.

Winning the title is not directly linked to the number of goals scored like i thought ..

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CUCUTA, Colombia (AP) - Partly owned by the town's mayor, with suspected ties to right-wing paramilitary groups, Cucuta Deportivo has climbed quickly through the ranks of Colombian and South American soccer.

Less than two years ago, the small-town club was playing in the country's second division in front of a few hundred people in a crumbling stadium in eastern Colombia. On Thursday, it will have the attention of the continent when it faces perennial power Boca Juniors of Argentina in the first leg of the Copa Libertadores semifinals.

Credit for Cucuta's dramatic rise goes to Cucuta's mayor and part owner, Ramiro Suarez, who negotiated the sale of the struggling club to himself and a group of friends intent on stemming its decline. Thanks to the arrival of a number of offensive-minded players, the club returned to the first division a year later, after a decade's absence.
Once there, and under the helm of Jorge Luis Pinto - now manager of Colombia's national team - the club shocked its larger rivals by winning its first national championship in 2006. This year it's once again among the final eight teams competing in the knockout phase of the first of Colombia's two annual championships.
And while playing in its first Libertadores, it has advanced to the final four against three teams that have a combined nine titles in the tournament: Boca as well as Brazilian clubs Santos and Gremio.
The climb is dramatic, but not completely unprecedented.
Three years ago, fellow small-town Colombian side Once Caldas upset Boca on its way to the Libertadores title.
Besides his own money, Suarez has pushed Cucuta's successful surge by getting the city to pay for club's stadium expansion, now reputed to be Colombia's most modern, to a capacity of 44,000.
"He's the fundamental pillar of the club and the entire transformation was his undertaking," German Ayala, Cucuta's spokesman, told The Associated Press.
But the dramatic rise hasn't been without controversy.
Suarez was arrested for eight months in 2004 before being cleared of charges he had ties to the drug-funded paramilitaries behind some of the worst atrocities in Colombia's half-century civil conflict and whom the United States consider terrorists.
Those charges resurfaced a few weeks ago when paramilitary warlord Salvatore Mancuso testified that right-wing militias under his command lent money and votes to Suarez during his landslide 2003 election.
Despite the accusations, Suarez remains widely popular in Cucuta, a border town of 600,000 that benefits more from the oil wealth of neighboring Venezuela than the bureaucrats in faraway Bogota.
Rodolfo Yanes, a Cucuta fan since the 1950s, acknowledges Suarez has done great things for the blighted city. But even while praising the team's play, he has tough words for the club's new financial-minded management.
"The only thing the club directors care about is filling their pockets with money," said Yanes, who said he was unable to afford tickets for the Boca match because they cost triple their normal price.
Although Cucuta Deportivo is not accused of receiving money from the paramilitaries, soccer clubs in Colombia have been tainted by criminality before.
During the heyday of the Medellin cartel in the 1980s and 1990s, cocaine kingpin Pablo Escobar was known to lavish huge amounts of his drug proceeds acquiring top talent for his favorite soccer team, Envigado, which won promotion to the first division in 1991.
Whatever the legal troubles of Cucuta's mayor, Cucuta remains at the top of its game.
Led by Panamanian center forward Blas Perez, whose six goals is tied for second-most in the competition, Cucuta has already advanced past 27-time Paraguayan champion Cerro Porteno, eight-time Mexican-champion Toluca and three-time Libertadores winner Nacional of Uruguay. It's biggest challenge awaits Thursday - Boca, whose five Liberterdores titles are second only to Independiente of Argentina and has won the crown three times since 2000. --- On the Net: www.cucutadeportivo.com
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

thanks mate. To be honest i started to be on overs of Cucuta when they played against the other colombean team (i don't remember the name) and i had some easy overs there...
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

here we go:

Caranta, M.
Ibarra, H.
Díaz, D.
Morel Rodríguez, C.
Rodríguez, C.
Ledesma, P.
Banega, E.
Cardozo, N.
Riquelme, J.
Palacio, R.
Palermo, M.

That's fine and, being a Boca fan, i'm gonna stay up to watch it.

'Course being a fan may make me biased, but Boca will not lose tonight. The non-fan might be nervous about the climate change etc, but fuck it -
2-1 to 'em imo.
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

I must admit Cucuta impressed me, despite there are still many question marks about their performance (colombian cartels and etc. )
Boca had some great chances to get a better result too, but Palacio and especially Ibarra were unlucky, the last hitting the post in the dying stages after great attack by Riquelme
regular goalie Caranta got injured and Bodabilla returnet in action

still not bad chances for Boca to progress
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Re: Copa Libertadores & SA 30 /01

Have to disagree Energoto, i felt that Boca will not be strong enough to overcome Cucuta, and dont believe Boca will win by more than two goals if any at the Bonbonera.
In any case Boca's run will end with Cucuta imo..

Wherever that money comes from at least its going to the benefit of the town
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