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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

Thats great if thats the case Kegman.

So bravo now have the right to the game, fantastic actually.

Bravo are really starting to take up football now then with Italian football aswell as South American matches they are getting up. Top stuff and cheers
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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

Hellas Verona will play at Bentegodi for the 3rd time in a row: after the victories over Bologna and Ternana today the gialloblù will entertain Arezzo, looking for other 3 pts.

Last season Verona hosted the newly promoted Arezzo in the 4th round. Hellas came from 3 consecutive defeats, while the team from Toscana after some very good performances already were called as one of the possible surprises. Verona won that game after a spectacular match (5-3) and started an impressive streak that took them from the releagation area to the play-off spots.

This season we have two very different teams: Verona are less entertaining and more effective; they've lost something in the front-line, but have a very solid defense (the second best in the league with 5 goals scored - 3 only in the match at Bergamo); Arezzo have lost something as well, but it looks they're more continue in their results. Also Arezzo are a lucky side: they often score in the very final minutes of the game and this fact allowed them to get at least 3 points more than they would have deserved (home win vs Crotone and home draw vs Cremonese). Now the final part of the games, from 85' till the end, is called "the Arezzo's time"

As I've already written Verona come from 2 consecutive wins, both at Bentegodi. Against Bologna they made a very good performance, fully deserving the full time score of 3-1. It has been a game very important not only for the result, but also for the self-confidence, since Verona struggled a lot in finding the net. Last week they got another win vs Ternana. Verona managed to take the lead only in the final part of the game, but they had some clear chances in both the halves so they could get rid of the defensive minded opponent (remember Ternana played withouth their regular forwards).

Arezzo come from the home draw to Pescara (2-2 FT), while in the previous round they've been defeated at home by Torino. Such results are pretty fair IMHO, as well as some other ones like the away win at Vicenza etc. They show Arezzo is an average side that only can aim to a quiet permanence in Serie B: they should not have relegation worries, but also can't compete for a place in next Serie A.

For the upcoming game Verona will miss the midfielder Gervasoni (2 matches ban), while the guests will have some injury worries having Raimondi, Lopez, Barbagli, Lauria and D’Anna surely unavailable and Lombardi doubtful.

I strongly believe Verona are closest to the 3rd victory in a row here. They have the home ground advantage (and I'd like to remeber at Bentegodi Hellas have a good record 3/2/0 5/1), they are in a good moment and the morale is high; they'll play an opponent with important absences, but I think they'll also have some further motivations:

After the match vs Ternana the sport judge has banned Gervasoni for two matches by using the TV proof. This news has come like a real surprise since Gervasoni's anti-sporting behaviour does not result from the tapes, that provided totally unclear images. Also Verona have been ordered to pay a sum of money due to the racist songs by the home crowd. Another unclear affair, since it is really evident the 'racist' supporters in the stadium were the usual smallest group of stupids, whereas the most part of the public at Bentegodi did not make anything of this kind.
Today Hellas will want to show on the play ground they are superior to these injustices and believe me, they won't fail

In conclusion home win for me @1,90 (Stanleybet - 1,95 would be perfect) with medium/high stakes. Once again I think I'll stake some units on Verona to keep a clean sheet (odds at around 2,20 should be ok).

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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

Still about Hellas and Arezzo here is an opposite point of view (from BA):

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2005-10-15 Verona (-1/2) - Arezzo (+1/2) by: Steve777 (14-10-2005 10:04 CET)


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This is some kind of value bet imho since Arezzo don't deserve to be such underdog here.

They have very dangerous forwards such as Abbruscato and Floro Flores and a good coach and they can be very dangerous if they can defend well and place some counters.

Verona is another well organized team by good coach Ficcadenti but they're a young team and i think if they find some well defensive organized teams they may suffer at home having to do the match. Pick: A, Odds: 1.83, Stake: 4, Bookmaker: Pointbet



Although I respect this tipster I think that such preview should lead to a 'no bet' conclusion. He puts the accent on the guests' dangerous strikers Floro Flores and Abbruscato (former Verona's player), but so far Arezzo scored just 1 goal away from home. The same Verona conceded at Bentegodi..

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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

Too bad for Hellas yesterday Verona would have deserved all the prize: they pressed their opponents from the very beginning and made Arezzo's forwards totally unoffensive.. In the 2nd half after having equalised Hellas pushed for more, finally creating a clear chance with Adailton by the end..

Let's hope for more luck today.. I'd like to spend two more words about Parma - Treviso since I'm changing my mind about the chances of a low scoring game.
Parma will miss Morfeo and Treviso are going to play without the 3 forwards. Fava and Pinga should start for the team from Veneto, but it's very likely they'll play a 4-5-1 module, so I can't see too many goals here..

Lazio - Fiorentina might be a more entertaining game. After being thrashed at Udinese Lazio will try and take advantage of their home ground, where they have so far a perfect record. Fiorentina won't give up for sure here and will fight for 3 pts as well.
Di Canio is set as starter for the hosts, while on the viola side Bojinov will start from the bench. Toni and the in-form Pazzini will be the forwards. Overish game from every points of view and maybe more than 3 goals could fit a small stake bet at odds around 2,50/2,60.

Inter to easily defeat Livorno. I'll be doubling it with Milan after having given Juventus a miss yesterday. As you already considered the hosts will miss their top scorer Lucarelli to make their trip to Milano not much enjoyable. Livorno not to score is the other option.

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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

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Inter to easily defeat Livorno. I'll be doubling it with Milan after having given Juventus a miss yesterday. As you already considered the hosts will miss their top scorer Lucarelli to make their trip to Milano not much enjoyable. Livorno not to score is the other option.
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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

Well after missing out on the 2 ht/ft's so far and Udinese ive went and jinxed thew whole procedings by taking Milan @ 1.61

FTSiena2 - 3Udinese
FTJuventus1 - 0Messina
17:19October 16
FTAscoli2 - 1Sampdoria
FTEmpoli1 - 0AS Roma
FTInter Milan5 - 0Livorno
FTLazio1 - 0Fiorentina
FTPalermo2 - 2Chievo
FTParma1 - 1Treviso
FTReggina2 - 0Lecce
20:30Cagliari? - ?AC Milan
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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

fuckin Roma! Chaosclub is Chaosclub .. not more
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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

sorry Rene. I aint laughing i just found you outburst funny. Aye they dont seem to be a team to trust from their results this season so far.

45' Cagliari 0 - 2 AC Milan

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Re: Italy Serie A & B - 14-17/10/2005

What's about this one? Looks a home win on paper.....

18 Oct-17:30 Torino v Bari 1.57 3.25 6.00

odds from Bet365 - I'm seeing a few bookies go as low as 1.44 for Torino.....

Torino Home: W2 D2 L0 F3 A0
Torino Overall: W5 D3 L1 F9 A3

Bari Away: W0 D1 L2 F3 A5
Bari Overall: W2 D3 L4 F9 A11

Torino's defence see them nick this one?
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